JoshVilla Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 He had a much better second half. He was losing his man constantly in the first half. Any sniff of an attacking opportunity for Mostar was coming down that side. He was much better when shifted over to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Not sure what else you can ask from a winger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) I thought he was ok. He’s not everyone’s cup of tea so unless he has a blinder he will more than often get a bit of criticism. Edited October 6, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 32 minutes ago, ChesterDad said: On the other hand - you seem to read into his game a lot more than many ? I guess at the end of the day it boils down to opinions For me Bailey has been very poor overall in his time at the club - I have nothing against the guy - I just don’t rate him, anywhere nearly as highly as you do, and he still has a way to go, before I can say to you, that his time here can be qualified as a success? Surely even you would have to admit this, if for instance he left the club today ? I see things in other players that appeal to me a lot more - as I said it’s all about opinions The past is completely immaterial - in football, it's all about what a player can offer in the present and future. He's started the season well and it looks like he's finally finding his feet. He's not leaving the club today and a season needs to be judged at its end, not on preconceived, hypothetical notions. I don't rate him as one of our best players but again, it has absolutely no bearing on me looking for positives and not dismissing a player because he struggled to settle into the side a year or two ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, lexicon said: The past is completely immaterial - in football, it's all about what a player can offer in the present and future. He's started the season well and it looks like he's finally finding his feet. He's not leaving the club today and a season needs to be judged at its end, not on preconceived, hypothetical notions. I don't rate him as one of our best players but again, it has absolutely no bearing on me looking for positives and not dismissing a player because he struggled to settle into the side a year or two ago. He is doing ok - he is not tearing up any trees let’s have it right. I’m not sure what more you want me to say. You’re making me out to be a hater and I’m certainly not. In fact I think you’ll find my comments on his performance last night were a lot more measured than a lot of others I have read. When everyone if fit - I suggest he will be no where near the starting 11, but I think he will be the beneficiary of JJ’s setback - so it’s up to him to grasp this opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Not sure what else you can ask from a winger. A decisive play that led to a goal or clear cut chance? Not popping at Bailey here, just answering your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: A decisive play that led to a goal or clear cut chance? Not popping at Bailey here, just answering your question. Didn’t he nearly set up Watkins for a goal shortly after half time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rustibrooks said: Didn’t he nearly set up Watkins for a goal shortly after half time? Not that I can remember but my 'signal' was playing up in parts. Edited October 6, 2023 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Not that I can remember but my 'signal' was playing up in parts. Ah fair enough, I just went back to watch the highlights to check and it’s there around the 1:23 min mark. He put a low cross into Watkins but Watkins couldn’t get a proper touch on it plus there were 3/4 of their defenders surrounding him so it went out of play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Rustibrooks said: Ah fair enough, I just went back to watch the highlights to check and it’s there around the 1:23 min mark. He put a low cross into Watkins but Watkins couldn’t get a proper touch on it plus there were 3/4 of their defenders surrounding him so it went out of play. Fair enough. You can't argue that that's a good ball and a good chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 100% dribbling stats is definitely wrong. He constantly ran into trouble but that was more down to their great defending and doubling up. He never stopped trying though right to the end so fair play I was happy with his effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Lost interest in Leon last season. Seen everything he's got and I'm very bored of it. Looking forward to him leaving to be honest. Another we'll be releasing on a free. He's in the pot with El Ghazi and Trez, which is unbelievably poor from him. They'll be some goals before he leaves. Hopefully a few tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I only managed to see the second half yesterday, but I think he looks better suited on the left wing, it looks more natural when he runs at defenders and it's more unpredictable if he will go inside or outside. I get that he can't cut in and take a shot with his left foot, but overall he looks more comfortable there. In one of his best games for us, Brentford at home last season, he played on the left hand side if I remember correctly. Also in one of his first games for us when he scored a cracker I think he played left wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 7, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2023 19 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Not sure what else you can ask from a winger. I assume dribbling with the ball and then passing it to the opposition counts as a successful dribble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 18 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Lost interest in Leon last season. Seen everything he's got and I'm very bored of it. Looking forward to him leaving to be honest. Another we'll be releasing on a free. He's in the pot with El Ghazi and Trez, which is unbelievably poor from him. They'll be some goals before he leaves. Hopefully a few tomorrow. I feel a bit like this. There’s only so many times I can see him do a bit of running then get crowded out and fall over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I want this donkey out of my club. Can’t cross, can’t pass and physically child like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 On 06/10/2023 at 13:28, Tomaszk said: Lost interest in Leon last season. Seen everything he's got and I'm very bored of it. Looking forward to him leaving to be honest. Another we'll be releasing on a free. He's in the pot with El Ghazi and Trez, which is unbelievably poor from him. They'll be some goals before he leaves. Hopefully a few tomorrow. i think thats a fair assessment tbh. Bailey, a bit like El Ghazi and Trez, did/do pop up with the odd goal here and there, but that massively papers/papered over the cracks that they are very poor footballers generally and outside of the odd goal and assist just.....dont do much. i know goals/assists are important, but if you arent doing stuff for the other 89 mins 55s of the match, other than falling over, losing the ball and passing to the opposition, thats why the team as a whole isnt able to perform at its peak. Similar with Ghazi/Trez, yes they scored some goals etc, but they were also a large part of the reason we were in a relegation dogfight, because their overall game just wasnt there outside of the odd goal etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, MaVilla said: i think thats a fair assessment tbh. Bailey, a bit like El Ghazi and Trez, did/do pop up with the odd goal here and there, but that massively papers/papered over the cracks that they are very poor footballers generally and outside of the odd goal and assist just.....dont do much. i know goals/assists are important, but if you arent doing stuff for the other 89 mins 55s of the match, other than falling over, losing the ball and passing to the opposition, thats why the team as a whole isnt able to perform at its peak. Similar with Ghazi/Trez, yes they scored some goals etc, but they were also a large part of the reason we were in a relegation dogfight, because their overall game just wasnt there outside of the odd goal etc. Was there any doubt whatsoever he was going to scuff that corner last minute and hit the first man? I'd have bet my legs on it. And when he lies down once every 10 minutes pretending to be dead or something. What's that about? It's every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Thought he looked lively today and really put in a lot of effort. Good cameo imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, JPJCB said: I want this donkey out of my club. Can’t cross, can’t pass and physically child like Strange. Came on, looked lively and should've had an assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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