Jareth Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Tommo_b said: I don’t feel any “fine” no matter how huge is going to affect these teams, they will just be like yeah okay whatever. Demotion to league 2 and a large points deduction will be the best message to send out to every club in the country that this will not be tolerated, no club is bigger then the premier league and if you try to circumvent it’s rules you get severely punished and HAVE to earn your way back to the top table. Yes but try selling TV rights globally once you've thrown the massive brands which sadly these clubs now are - through the trapdoor. Every club loses money in that situation. I think the solution needs to be as cold and as calculating and based on the control of money - as the problem was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: It's a joke. It wasn't most Germans fault for Hitler's actions. Doesn't mean Germany shouldn't pay for their war crimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted April 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 Took 175 pages to get to Hitler, but we got there. Great work lads. 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 There will be some sort of lines in the FA & PL statures about how these clubs can be punished if they even can. No idea what they are or how the wording is but I doubt it will be as severe as you'd hope. Would be a enormous legal battle that I doubt anyone involved is keen on. Slap on the wrist, some more apologies and then business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Seat68 said: Took 175 pages to get to Hitler, but we got there. Great work lads. Godwin's law is infallible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Seat68 said: Took 175 pages to get to Hitler, but we got there. Great work lads. I thought the German's did very well lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Yeah probably like a suspended sentence for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaJ100 Posted April 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 The punishments will be like the UN in Team America 'What you gonna do Hans Blix?' 'Well we are going to write a strongly worded letter' 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I want to know which premier League clubs don't want a punishment. Why. If we let them get away with this it's never going to end..make a stand now you gutless freaks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Pissflaps said: If we let them get away with this it's never going to end That's the thing. Let it slide the first time and you have basically opened the gates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lapal_fan Posted April 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 The sheer entitlement of the fans is puzzling me. I've seen things like "you can't blame the fans for the CEO getting it wrong". Woah - Villa fans paid the price of shit ownership with a decade of decline in the league, followed up by 3 years in the Championship - that's what happens when you're poorly managed! It's like they cannot fathom being out of European competition, never mind getting relegated. They care so much for their own club, no other clubs appear to matter - what a beige world they must live in. I've also seen people from "lesser" clubs saying one thing, and the fans of the "elite" clubs saying "well that's fine but you've won 0 trophies" - maybe if the "elite" clubs hadn't haemorrhaged so much money on success NOW, and played it more sustainable, not handing our huge transfer costs/wages to guarantee success - then maybe you wouldn't have won so many **** trophies either, you sack of shit. They are completely blind by supporting a "big" club. Idiocy. I know they won't get punished, and if they do it'll be feeble, like "donate a million pounds to grass roots football"... They've got away with it - again. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raver50032 Posted April 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) Fine, don't punish them on the basis of 'you can't blame and punish the fans.' Don't ever then, try to deduct points for financial mismanagement... Don't ever then, make a club forfeit it's place in a cup competition for fielding an ineligible player (or make them replay the tie)... Don't ever then force a club to change it's name/kit colours because it went out of business. Talk to the hand. Fact is, these 6 clubs BROKE a Premier League rule. All the other punishments handed out to 'lesser' teams and clubs in the past, adversely and materially affected the FANS by association. We support our clubs through thick and thin. What happens to our club goes with the tribal association of it. If our Club had shat all over the PL rules, we would have to suck the mop as fans. To let them off freely here because of 'won't somebody think of the fans' angst, is laughable hypocrisy. I for one, will never forget. And when I'm back in the stadium, I will have my say... I expect all of you to do the same. Edited April 21, 2021 by Raver50032 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, PieFacE said: There should be no division on this you soft gits. How on earth can they be divided?? I'm astonished by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: The sheer entitlement of the fans is puzzling me. I've seen things like "you can't blame the fans for the CEO getting it wrong". Woah - Villa fans paid the price of shit ownership with a decade of decline in the league, followed up by 3 years in the Championship - that's what happens when you're poorly managed! It's like they cannot fathom being out of European competition, never mind getting relegated. They care so much for their own club, no other clubs appear to matter - what a beige world they must live in. I've also seen people from "lesser" clubs saying one thing, and the fans of the "elite" clubs saying "well that's fine but you've won 0 trophies" - maybe if the "elite" clubs hadn't haemorrhaged so much money on success NOW, and played it more sustainable, not handing our huge transfer costs/wages to guarantee success - then maybe you wouldn't have won so many **** trophies either, you sack of shit. They are completely blind by supporting a "big" club. Idiocy. I know they won't get punished, and if they do it'll be feeble, like "donate a million pounds to grass roots football"... They've got away with it - again. I don't remember us complaining about the unfairness of parachute payments, TV money splits and the like. The whole ESL thing stinks but let's not pretend what we have now is all about merit, especially when we have directly benefitted from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, flamingsombrero said: I don't remember us complaining about the unfairness of parachute payments, TV money splits and the like. The whole ESL thing stinks but let's not pretend what we have now is all about merit, especially when we have directly benefitted from it. Sorry, I don't follow? We went through the process of being shit and getting relegated - the fans of the supposed big clubs are completely against the notion of not being in Europe, despite them having to essentially almost bankrupt their own clubs to do it. If you're poorly managed, go through a re-structure, go through a re-build, don't try and run off to a new league with no risk and huge financial backing to the absolute detriment of all the other clubs - deal with being shit for a while! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Should we scrap relegation then ? - that punishes the fans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, hippo said: Should we scrap relegation then ? - that punishes the fans ? Who's saying scrap relegation?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, hippo said: Should we scrap relegation then ? - that punishes the fans ? Don’t give them ideas, they’ll create a super league! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, lapal_fan said: Who's saying scrap relegation?! No - it was just in response to the argument that punishing the clubs shouldn't happen as it punishes the fans. Going forward the bigger issue is how do the big clubs cement there place season in / season out in the champions league. The first steps appear to be in place with the UEFA Coefficient Slot allocation announced earlier this week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 These scum have tried to run football. For everyone. Punish them. If it was us I'd want us punished too. It's cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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