Anything11 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 at the back makes sense. anything to shake it up a bit it has been so dross as of late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Anything11 said: 3 at the back makes sense. anything to shake it up a bit it has been so dross as of late 3 at the back to be successful you need a ball playing centre back and Mings is the best we have. We would also need to remove McGinn from midfield as he does not distribute the ball well enough for that system It has disaster written all over it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Anything11 said: 3 at the back makes sense. anything to shake it up a bit it has been so dross as of late Does this make sense Martinez Konsa Bednarek Mings Cash McGinn Coutinho Ramsey Young Ings Watkins Not sure I would even turn on the TV if that is the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Where is all this three at the back talk coming from? My understanding was it was the middle where we are struggling, the defence is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Where is all this three at the back talk coming from? My understanding was it was the middle where we are struggling, the defence is ok. Because we have no recognised senior left backs Gerrard mentioned the possibility of going to a three. Otherwise it would have to be Cash at left back and Young at right back, because hell would have to freeze for him to consider picking Guilbert. everytime i have ever seen us play a 3 it has been awful, it helped Dean get the sack so maybe it would help Gerrard lose his job if you are that way inclined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: What do you want Gerrard to do? Cry? Fold up? Start playing our best players. Been waiting almost a year for him to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Start playing our best players. Been waiting almost a year for him to do that. Two of our better players (new signings) are long term injured. Who are these mythical "best players" that Gerrard isn't picking? It is just goal post moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: Two of our better players (new signings) are long term injured. Who are these mythical "best players" that Gerrard isn't picking? It is just goal post moving. No, it is not. McGinn over Douglas Luiz in the 8 role is insane. Buendia should also be starting way more often than he does. Get a coherent midfield and attacking midfield, and then play Ings as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: Two of our better players (new signings) are long term injured. Who are these mythical "best players" that Gerrard isn't picking? It is just goal post moving. I wouldn't describe Buendia as Mythical but there he is, sat on the bench, £35mil well spent on a player that would walk into teams that finished far higher than us last season. Watkins has the finishing ability of paint stripper and he's getting on the pitch week-in week-out, with one viable replacement given 2 minutes to prove he should start ahead of him and the other maybe 15, every few weeks. McGinn is and has been for a while the worst midfielder on current form and fitness at the club and he could waltz onto the pitch absolutely steaming, in a full vomit stained tuxedo and a novelty pirate eye patch on and Gerrard would still give him the 85 minutes and tell Sanson not to bother traveling with the squad. I think our best XI is obviously to most people and even on the 1 or 2 players people disagree on, nobody is selecting the same team as Gerrard, even in his suicidal glasgow-ball formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villa_Vids Posted October 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tom13 said: No, it is not. McGinn over Douglas Luiz in the 8 role is insane. Buendia should also be starting way more often than he does. Get a coherent midfield and attacking midfield, and then play Ings as well. McGinn is the captain, he is one of a few who doesn't hide when the going gets tough. We will be a lot worse without McGinn IMO. Nobody knows if Luiz is coming or going, Luiz has not been as consistent as McGinn throughout his time at Villa - DL has talent but he is a selective performer at best. Buendia hasn't cut the mustard when starting games, he has been a better substitute overall. Ings is a fair assessment, he scored against Everton and was then dropped against Palace - which made no sense and seems unfair. Watkins is missing 1v1 on a regular basis and costing us points. Also Archer not getting enough minutes to prove himself is poor (but he has been injured though hasn't he?). I think some posters are going to get a rude awakening if their dream team starts a game. Edited October 9, 2022 by Villa_Vids 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Buendia has been having niggles left, right and centre too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom13 Posted October 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: McGinn is the captain, he is one of a few who doesn't hide when the going gets tough. We will be a lot worse without McGinn IMO. Nobody knows if Luiz is coming or going, Luiz has not been as consistent as McGinn throughout his time at Villa - DL has talent but he is a selective performer at best. Buendia hasn't cut the mustard when starting games, he has been a better substitute overall. Ings is a fair assessment, he scored against Everton and was then dropped against Palace - which made no sense and seems unfair. Watkins is missing 1v1 on a regular basis and costing us points. Also Archer not getting enough minutes to prove himself is poor (but he has been injured though hasn't he?). I think some posters are going to get a rude awakening if their dream team starts a game. Sorry, don't agree in the slightest re McGinn and Luiz. McGinn is a CM who literally doesn't show for a pass when we're in possession. Criminal. Also disagree regarding Buendia - play a functional midfield behind him, and he'll be a gem even when starting. Edited October 9, 2022 by Tom13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 In fact, I posted my thoughts on Buendia starting here: And he starts with two dysfunctional number eights behind him, with McGinn not showing for the ball most of the time. This leads to Buendia trying to do it all on his own. On top of this, Buendia knows he's not favoured (for some bizarre reason) by the manager. So every minute he gets, he's under pressure, and he knows he's even more under the spotlight when he starts, as he knows the slightest mistake and he's dropped. So he probably tries to force things a little bit. A good manager (Gerrard falls way short of this) would tell Buendia he's our key player, would start him every game, and would let him take risks because he's going to do way more positive than negative. This would allow him to play his natural game. If his performances then went flat, fair enough, drop him, but someone who's that naturally tenacious and creative, there's little chance of that happening. https://www.villatalk.com/topic/21827-emiliano-buendía/?do=findComment&comment=3941208 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted October 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Sorry, don't agree in the slightest re McGinn and Luiz. McGinn is a CM who literally doesn't show for a pass when we're in possession. Criminal. Also disagree regarding Buendia - play a functional midfield behind him, and he'll be a gem even when starting. Perhaps play him on the right where he did so well for Norwich in the PL. Might be something to think about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted October 9, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Villa_Vids said: Two of our better players (new signings) are long term injured. Who are these mythical "best players" that Gerrard isn't picking? It is just goal post moving. I wish someone would move them to where our strikers are shooting. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 18 hours ago, Zatman said: 3 at the back to be successful you need a ball playing centre back and Mings is the best we have. We would also need to remove McGinn from midfield as he does not distribute the ball well enough for that system It has disaster written all over it McGinn should be in a 10 or somewhere higher up like he does for Scotland. Dougie and someone as the 2 midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Yeah as the players you note, are players for more immediate/short term results,we don't have time to faff about. Last night I was thinking though " Newcastle have Guimares, we have McGinn " Then again, it's SG who chooses the team, whether we have a " Guimares " or not . They play Guimares, we leave Luiz on the bench.... Edited October 9, 2022 by Villan_of_oz 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Anything11 said: McGinn should be in a 10 or somewhere higher up like he does for Scotland. Dougie and someone as the 2 midfielders We have better attacking midfielders therefore McGinn should be on the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Risso said: I completely disagree, and think it's absolutely the other way round, as I think would quickly become evident if Gerrard left and we moved on to the next bloke. Lots of players like McGinn and Watkins are nowhere near good for a sustained push for top 8, they're bottom half Premier League standard at best. The owners didn't back the manager nearly enough in the summer, witth the result that we're left with essentially the same team that Smith was struggling so badly with. The next manager could always drop those players to the subs bench. Let's say in dream world Pochettino came in and he put this front 6 out for 2-3 games: Luiz-Sanson Bailey Buendia Ramsey Archer While I'm not saying that formation is automatically going to win loads of games I think they'd be plenty of intrigue and support in how it would get on especially as so many on here are begging for Sanson and Archer to get proper chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: The next manager could always drop those players to the subs bench. Let's say in dream world Pochettino came in and he put this front 6 out for 2-3 games: Luiz-Sanson Bailey Buendia Ramsey Archer While I'm not saying that formation is automatically going to win loads of games I think they'd be plenty of intrigue and support in how it would get on especially as so many on here are begging for Sanson and Archer to get proper chances. Sorry, but looks terrible. Just terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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