peterw Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 20 hours ago, duke313 said: He's been unlucky with injury since he signed, but definitely should have started more games. he's just going to end up being another French player we all had high hopes for but that have left unfilfilled or underwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 24/03/2022 at 10:49, villa89 said: Obviously both Dean and Gerrard have seen enough in training to know he's not good enough. That's why he gets such little game time. He'll be sold in the summer for half what we paid for him. Then they are wrong. I'm sorry that's just a fact. He's looked excellent compared to the average mcginn performance whenever he's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I'm sure he'll be loaned not sold as he needs to play regularly to boost his value. He's got 3 years left on his contract. A loan with a loan fee would be best option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 10 hours ago, peterw said: he's just going to end up being another French player we all had high hopes for but that have left unfilfilled or underwhelmed. We do seem to have a thing for buying French players who don’t deliver, going back to Didier Six in the 80’s David Ginola and even greats such as Mathieu Berson. We just don’t seem to have much luck integrating them into our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 25, 2022 11 hours ago, peterw said: he's just going to end up being another French player we all had high hopes for but that have left unfilfilled or underwhelmed. Underplayed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, tinker said: Underplayed He really hasn't HAD the chance to establish himself so far and always looks capable in every his cameos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: He really hasn't HAD the chance to establish himself so far and always looks capable in every his cameos. It must be something he is not doing or doing behind the scenes as his cameos have shown nothing that's particularly poor, one miss hit pass against Manure comes to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 21 hours ago, NeilS said: We do seem to have a thing for buying French players who don’t deliver, going back to Didier Six in the 80’s David Ginola and even greats such as Mathieu Berson. We just don’t seem to have much luck integrating them into our team. Tbf we haven't paid a top fee for a French player. £16m is nothing in PL terms. A lot of the others have been frees or bargain basement. He was always brought as a squad player imo. But then when he didn't player for ages the expectations of him were way, way over the top. Sort of calibre player we need in the squad and too come off the bench. In that respect he can hold his own. A star in the PL he isn't and probably never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, hippo said: Tbf we haven't paid a top fee for a French player. £16m is nothing in PL terms. A lot of the others have been frees or bargain basement. He was always brought as a squad player imo. But then when he didn't player for ages the expectations of him were way, way over the top. Sort of calibre player we need in the squad and too come off the bench. In that respect he can hold his own. A star in the PL he isn't and probably never will be. That's silly. He was probably a top 3 player for a champions league team less than 2 seasons ago. His manager quit because he got sold and replaced. He was valued at 40 million 12 months before we bought him, and was only sold so cheaply due to the collapse of the French television deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: That's silly. He was probably a top 3 player for a champions league team less than 2 seasons ago. His manager quit because he got sold and replaced. He was valued at 40 million 12 months before we bought him, and was only sold so cheaply due to the collapse of the French television deal. Ok then. Right now he is a fringe player for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: That's silly. He was probably a top 3 player for a champions league team less than 2 seasons ago. His manager quit because he got sold and replaced. He was valued at 40 million 12 months before we bought him, and was only sold so cheaply due to the collapse of the French television deal. Can people please stop saying that Sanson being sold is the reason that Villas Boas quit? The club was in financial turmoil, the fans set fire to buildings at the training ground (IIRC) and the general atmosphere at the club was terrible. Selling Sanson might have annoyed him a bit but it is not the only reason that AVB quit. It was more a case of AVB saying "Hm, I do like hanging around on the south coast of France, but I could do without the constant possibility of some head case knifing me on the way home after dinner in one of these fantastic restaurants some night. I'm off." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Absolutely stinks of a Veretout scenario if we were to let him go. He's class. Agreed, he has to have a proper look at him surely, unless of course he has his MF lineup in his head and deals are likely to happen. Sort of Coutihno type level players, who knows, exciting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Football Insider has Sanson being told to find another club, and his failure raising questions over Lange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted April 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, thunderball said: Football Insider has Sanson being told to find another club, and his failure raising questions over Lange. I dont take Football Insider seriously but I do think that Lange will be pushed out the door soon as the manager seems to have no interest in his players Which was not what we were asked to buy into 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 57 minutes ago, thunderball said: Football Insider has Sanson being told to find another club, and his failure raising questions over Lange. Football insider ran the same story last year too but it was Smith not lange who was under question They said the owners thought sanson wasnt better than Hourihane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 On 26/03/2022 at 06:55, tinker said: It must be something he is not doing or doing behind the scenes as his cameos have shown nothing that's particularly poor, one miss hit pass against Manure comes to mind. I think we're forgetting his reactions when not being pulled off the bench. If my memory is correct, I think there have been a couple of incidents where he has threw his toys out the pram. It has to be an attitude thing, because, let's be honest, aside from the terrible back pass, he hasn't looked that bad at all when he's been given a chance. It's strange though, because when SG came in, I remember distinctly him saying that the slate had been wiped clean in regard to Sansom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 If two managers don't rate him then you can't really argue. He's looked tidy when i've seen him but guess there is more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I want my players to want to be playing and to not be happy sitting on the bench and fight for their place. When his error against United cost us a goal and he was subbed off I want him to be annoyed with himself and not having a chance to put it right. If we have nice players sitting there happy to take the salary and not that bothered if they play a lot or not. Then we're going nowhere of we have those players. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Just now, Xela said: If two managers don't rate him then you can't really argue. He's looked tidy when i've seen him but guess there is more to it than that. He was injured for essentially the entirety of Deanos reign. So you can't say he didn't rate him. Plus Ramsey has emerged as a real talent too and none of the midfield three we use has been injured this season unlike Sanson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I want my players to want to be playing and to not be happy sitting on the bench and fight for their place. When his error against United cost us a goal and he was subbed off I want him to be annoyed with himself and not having a chance to put it right. If we have nice players sitting there happy to take the salary and not that bothered if they play a lot or not. Then we're going nowhere of we have those players. I do agree thats the attitude I prefer but some players cant win. I think Barkley did similar last season and was moaned at on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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