leemond2008 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Thanks Dem. Crowds are a massive part of football. That season was just bizarre and really shouldn’t be referenced to make points. I mean we beat Liverpool 7-2 and Bamford scored 17 goals ffs. Including a hatrick at Villa! These things just aren’t normal. Yet, these things just aren't normal yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Exactly. Some bizarre play. We never would have beaten liverpool 7-2 if there was fans. That was just a crazy season. Its made how fans make such a difference Watford smashed them 5 months before 3-0 with fans playing a similar tactic Why would we not since we did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Zatman said: Watford smashed them 5 months before 3-0 with fans playing a similar tactic Why would we not since we did Because once we got a good lead the fans would get nervous and this would affect the players who would then sit deeper and deeper whilst making mistakes until eventually Liverpool would break us down. Completely different dynamic with crowds. As for Watford game. Liverpool had as good as already won the league and 3 is hardly 7! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 8, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 8, 2023 I’ve asked before, but if playing with no crowd was such a huge factor in the 7-2 win, why didn’t similar results happen on a more regular basis that season? The supporters wouldn’t have gotten on the players backs when they conceded early on against Brighton as they weren’t there. Why didn’t they just do what they did against Liverpool? Not just us, all the matches that season. Try as I might, I can’t see the Burnley 6-1 Man City score line, or similar. Yeah of course the (lack of) atmosphere had some effect. But maybe the greater factors were we played rather well, had a good helping of luck with some of the deflections and Liverpool had no answer to it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Watford smashed them 5 months before 3-0 with fans playing a similar tactic Why would we not since we did 3-0 and 7-2 are completely different scorelines though. Liverpool rarwly concede 7!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The xG for that game was something 2.7 for us and 1.8 for them. Weird game that for a lot of reasons. We benefited a lot from the deflections that allowed us to score goals we shouldn't have but at the same time, we also missed some good chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: I’ve asked before, but if playing with no crowd was such a huge factor in the 7-2 win, why didn’t similar results happen on a more regular basis that season? The supporters wouldn’t have gotten on the players backs when they conceded early on against Brighton as they weren’t there. Why didn’t they just do what they did against Liverpool? Not just us, all the matches that season. Try as I might, I can’t see the Burnley 6-1 Man City score line, or similar. Yeah of course the (lack of) atmosphere had some effect. But maybe the greater factors were we played rather well, had a good helping of luck with some of the deflections and Liverpool had no answer to it. As soon as I saw No Mane I knew we’d be in the game and when Alisson was missing I was confident that we’d win. in face Bertie had 3 chances at the end to make it ten. As did Barkley 1st half) and Ollie. We targeted TAA and Gomez and allowed them to attack down our right. Bertie certainly is mercurial. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: I’ve asked before, but if playing with no crowd was such a huge factor in the 7-2 win, why didn’t similar results happen on a more regular basis that season? The supporters wouldn’t have gotten on the players backs when they conceded early on against Brighton as they weren’t there. Why didn’t they just do what they did against Liverpool? Not just us, all the matches that season. Try as I might, I can’t see the Burnley 6-1 Man City score line, or similar. Yeah of course the (lack of) atmosphere had some effect. But maybe the greater factors were we played rather well, had a good helping of luck with some of the deflections and Liverpool had no answer to it. Agreed . it really was just one of them games. Nearly everything we hit went in. I think there were 3 deflections in the 7. If we had similar luck on Boxing Day it could have been 7-2 again. well maybe 7-3!! Edited January 8, 2023 by Lochheads twin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: I’ve asked before, but if playing with no crowd was such a huge factor in the 7-2 win, why didn’t similar results happen on a more regular basis that season? The supporters wouldn’t have gotten on the players backs when they conceded early on against Brighton as they weren’t there. Why didn’t they just do what they did against Liverpool? Not just us, all the matches that season. Try as I might, I can’t see the Burnley 6-1 Man City score line, or similar. Yeah of course the (lack of) atmosphere had some effect. But maybe the greater factors were we played rather well, had a good helping of luck with some of the deflections and Liverpool had no answer to it. Some people seem to think that that particular set of players we had (and only our particular set of players) were just prime for no crowds. If we kept the team together and banned crowds they would have won the lot. The treble. The quadruple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochheads twin Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 With regard to a straight choice between Traore and say Bailey, I personally prefer Traore. If you want a player who can go one on one with an defender and just glide past him, Bertie is your man. Does his profile fit what the current requirements are, probably not. That said I hope Bailey plays today, scores a couple and starts to build some confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Bring him home til Bailey is replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaptureJames Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Miss you Bertie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1000000x the player of Bailey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Yup I'd swap Bailey for Traore. Seen enough of Bailey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Zhan_Zhuang said: Yup I'd swap Bailey for Traore. Seen enough of Bailey... But Bailey is **** rapid bro. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Sadly Turkey is where footballers' careers go to die. I'd be surprised if he came back in any usable condition. Edited January 8, 2023 by sharkyvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: 1000000x the player of Bailey They are both useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The comments here are hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 He can't be worse then some of our squad today people are joking otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 17m. 65k x 52 x 4 = £13.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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