villa4europe Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 No guarantee coutinho will be here next year... Also think bertie can play plan A and plan B so we'll keep him And then it also gives us some more time with PB, Barry etc we need a squad with options and he's a good one for the next year or two 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, gwi1890 said: How random , what’s your theory on why he won’t be here next season? And don’t give me the luxury player doesn’t work for the team stuff that simply isn’t true. I don't think he's paticularly a luxury player, I just don't think he's anywhere near good enough for what we're trying to achieve and I imagine the board/manager will agree with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, MotoMkali said: He played LW for the Liverpool though for the most part. And a little bit of CAM when Mane joined. But mostly LW. You're right. As a general rule for his time with Liverpool, however in his final 6 months with Liverpool he had more appearances playing in central midfield in Klopps 4-3-3 than he did anywhere else. I even checked because you're not the first to mention Coutinho not being a CM on VT in reply to my comments. I'm glad I did because it has just cemented that what I have posted in regards to Phil's career adds up and carries weight to it. I mean I spent enough time watching him and reading about why it didn't work at Barca to have some insight. Edited January 18, 2022 by A'Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted January 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2022 I just love watching him play tbh, and want him to stay for that reason alone 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 18/01/2022 at 17:55, Delphinho123 said: I don't think he's paticularly a luxury player, I just don't think he's anywhere near good enough for what we're trying to achieve and I imagine the board/manager will agree with that. Not as a starter. But as a squad player he can be here definitely and help us at any level. He adds something not many players add to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said: Not as a starter. But as a squad player he can be here definitely and help us at any level. He adds something not many players add to the team. I disagree, but I can see your point. I think he’ll be gone in the Summer and we’ll have Coutinho, Bailey, Buendia and Chukwuemeka competing for starting spots (provided Coutinho signs and Chuk commits his future). I would be very surprised if Traore is a) here next season, and b) getting any sort of game time at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 18/01/2022 at 12:42, villa4europe said: No guarantee coutinho will be here next year.. Well only if he's crap and we don't want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegzy Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 18/01/2022 at 17:48, Keyblade said: I just love watching him play tbh, and want him to stay for that reason alone He is our best and our worst player to watch. When on form though he can do things that nobody else is capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, sidcow said: Well only if he's crap and we don't want him. Discussed in his thread at the time, a future fee agreed with barca doesn't necessarily equate to a signed contract agreed with him... He could say no even if barca can't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Discussed in his thread at the time, a future fee agreed with barca doesn't necessarily equate to a signed contract agreed with him... He could say no even if barca can't I disagree, an option to buy is something automatically converted if the club want to. If that's not the case we haven't got an option to buy at all and the club have lied. What we would have then is an option to make an offer. The player signs the loan deal in full knowledge that we will be joining the club permanently if the offer is taken up. Anything else is not an option to buy and should not be described as such. Edited January 21, 2022 by sidcow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, sidcow said: I disagree, an option to buy is something automatically converted if the club want to. If that's not the case we haven't got an option to buy at all and the club have lied. What we would have then is an offer to make an offer. The player signs the loan deal in full knowledge that we will be joining the club permanently if the offer is taken up. Anything else is not an option to buy and should not be described as such. The fact he showed up to sign without his agent and accepted what the Villa lady said about his agent being happy with it suggests he'll be happy to stay. Based on his first short appearance I'd be happy for him to stay too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, Talldarkandransome said: The fact he showed up to sign without his agent and accepted what the Villa lady said about his agent being happy with it suggests he'll be happy to stay. Based on his first short appearance I'd be happy for him to stay too Things change quickly. Think back to Ross Barkley, or even James Rodriguez at Everton. Signs are good so far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Things change quickly. Think back to Ross Barkley, or even James Rodriguez at Everton. Signs are good so far though. Understand but I think he's head and shoulders above them pair. Especially Barkley. James had no PL experience either, struggled to settle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom13 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) On 05/01/2022 at 19:11, villalad21 said: Traores main problem is his low footballing Iq. Constantly making the wrong decisions during key moments. Disagree completely. In the final two thirds, which is often 'key moments' as you suggest, he's very clever with his decision making. In his own third, he panicks and that goes out the window completely. But generally I'd say he's a very clever player, don't know how you can say he has low IQ. Edited January 23, 2022 by Tom13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Disagree completely. In the final two thirds, which is often 'key moments' as you suggest, he's very clever with his decision making. In his own third, he panicks and that goes out the window completely. But generally I'd say he's a very clever player, don't know how you can say he has low IQ. He makes the wrong decision nearly all of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: He makes the wrong decision nearly all of the time. How does someone get 15 goal contributions always making the wrong decision? Is he the world's luckiest player? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: How does someone get 15 goal contributions always making the wrong decision? Is he the world's luckiest player? That goal vs West Brom was supposed to go left wing to Grealish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: Starts! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 20:36, sidcow said: Well only if he's crap and we don't want him. Or he doesn’t want to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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