AV82 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I think he has 6 months to show us what he's got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, AV82 said: I think he has 6 months to show us what he's got. In my books he has had at least 5 months of that period already ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, KentVillan said: People seem to be getting very worked up about his performance in training games. His recent competitive games for Villa under Unai have been good. Really? Not sure I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, nick76 said: Really? Not sure I agree What would you have liked him to do better in the one league game he's played in under Emery? We beat Man Utd and Ollie provided a lovely assist for JJ's crucial goal. Watkins also scored in the cup match Olsen managed to hand to Utd if you remember. Two games. One goal, one assist. I think that's good. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, Paul33 said: In my books he has had at least 5 months of that period already ! yes but its not your books its Unai Emerys book 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, AV82 said: I think he has 6 months to show us what he's got. I think that could be said for about 80 percent of our squad. Martinez, Carlos{due to his injury}, Kamara, Luiz and Ramsey are probably the players that are guaranteed to be here next season under Emery The rest are fighting for the future which is a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: What would you have liked him to do better in the one league game he's played in under Emery? We beat Man Utd and Ollie provided a lovely assist for JJ's crucial goal. Watkins also scored in the cup match Olsen managed to hand to Utd if you remember. Two games. One goal, one assist. I think that's good. It is. He did also miss a gold plated chance Bailey set him up with in the cup game. He’s not a great player, but people talk as if he’s useless, and he isn’t. He’s quite good. Great all round game, quick, causes a lot of problems… technically not the best, doesn’t get his head up enough, not a natural finisher. That’s why he’s a 10-15 goal a season striker and not a 20-25 goal a season striker. Replace him by all means, but saying he should be behind other current players in the pecking order, when they all have their own flaws too, is a bit misguided IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, KentVillan said: It is. He did also miss a gold plated chance Bailey set him up with in the cup game. He’s not a great player, but people talk as if he’s useless, and he isn’t. He’s quite good. Great all round game, quick, causes a lot of problems… technically not the best, doesn’t get his head up enough, not a natural finisher. That’s why he’s a 10-15 goal a season striker and not a 20-25 goal a season striker. Replace him by all means, but saying he should be behind other current players in the pecking order, when they all have their own flaws too, is a bit misguided IMO. At the rate his going this season he’d struggle to score much more than 5 goals this season. We’re almost half way through the season and he only has 2 goals to his name. Edited December 17, 2022 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted December 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: At the rate his going this season he’d struggle to score much more than 5 goals this season. We’re almost half way through the season and he only has 2 goals to his name. I think that was mainly down to how we had absolutely no structure for the 1st 10 games or so He has 2 goals and an assist in the 4 games he played since we got rid of the pathetic excuse of a manager 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 22 hours ago, KentVillan said: It is. He did also miss a gold plated chance Bailey set him up with in the cup game. He’s not a great player, but people talk as if he’s useless, and he isn’t. He’s quite good. Great all round game, quick, causes a lot of problems… technically not the best, doesn’t get his head up enough, not a natural finisher. That’s why he’s a 10-15 goal a season striker and not a 20-25 goal a season striker. Replace him by all means, but saying he should be behind other current players in the pecking order, when they all have their own flaws too, is a bit misguided IMO. Great all round game? Sorry but that's just not true unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) Guys don’t tell anyone but @Tom13 does NOT rate Ollie Watkins Edited December 17, 2022 by Adam2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 16/12/2022 at 12:20, Pinebro said: Because he doesn't waste all of them and because he offers so much more than just goals but your average football fan won't notice that but managers will. Unai is gonna love Ollie whether fans likes it or not. This is a bit patronising isn't it? Watkins' main job is to finish the chances he gets as the focal point of the attack. His other qualities I am quite aware of. Most fans will be too. However, there are plenty of hard working forwards around. Ollie's a decent player but his decision making, touch and finishing is subpar and Emery won't tolerate squandering chances too often in my opinion. Against Premier League defences chances are very hard won, so it makes no sense to have a guy who struggles to finish I liken it to guitar. You can have the best amps, lavish custom guitars and then you buy a cheap cable and your sound is rubbish. We have money, let's upgrade. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Bigger question is would put give him a new deal? Two years left on his deal in the summer so really it's the optimum time to sell him if Emery decides he isn't good enough to be a first choice long term which seems likely. Don't want more situations where it's like Luiz and we get to less than 12 months. He could've easily been a 25m asset leaving us on a free. I can see him going back to London, West Ham, Palace, Fulham, we could play for all of them and some of them spend 30m + on forwards which is what we'd be demanding. If Everton stay up they'll probably be in for him aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Congratulations all Aston Villa are the world champions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Congratulations all Aston Villa are the world champions Ollie's contribution was fairly minimal though if we're being honest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, icouldtelltheworld said: Ollie's contribution was fairly minimal though if we're being honest It’s his amazing shooting in training which has given Emi the confidence!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintpotvilla Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 On 16/12/2022 at 18:26, Zatman said: I think that could be said for about 80 percent of our squad. Martinez, Carlos{due to his injury}, Kamara, Luiz and Ramsey are probably the players that are guaranteed to be here next season under Emery The rest are fighting for the future which is a good thing I would add Cash, Buendia and Konsa to that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 21 hours ago, VillaChris said: Bigger question is would put give him a new deal? Two years left on his deal in the summer so really it's the optimum time to sell him if Emery decides he isn't good enough to be a first choice long term which seems likely. Don't want more situations where it's like Luiz and we get to less than 12 months. He could've easily been a 25m asset leaving us on a free. I can see him going back to London, West Ham, Palace, Fulham, we could play for all of them and some of them spend 30m + on forwards which is what we'd be demanding. If Everton stay up they'll probably be in for him aswell. Difficult one. We could get in someone better, or they could be a expensive flop. At least you know what you getting with Ollie. He will turn 27 by the end of the year so he probably only has one more big move in him. He rarely gets injured and looks after himself so I could see hims playing competitively into his 30s unlike say a Gabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 16/12/2022 at 18:27, KentVillan said: It is. He did also miss a gold plated chance Bailey set him up with in the cup game. He’s not a great player, but people talk as if he’s useless, and he isn’t. He’s quite good. Great all round game, quick, causes a lot of problems… technically not the best, doesn’t get his head up enough, not a natural finisher. That’s why he’s a 10-15 goal a season striker and not a 20-25 goal a season striker. Replace him by all means, but saying he should be behind other current players in the pecking order, when they all have their own flaws too, is a bit misguided IMO. We have to find better....and thats not as easy as it sounds. No point in signing, no better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 19 hours ago, icouldtelltheworld said: Ollie's contribution was fairly minimal though if we're being honest I don't think he is aggressive enough ( with himself) like Ivan Toney is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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