sheepyvillian Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 When you say a better player than AG, in what way ? Better on the floor, but then his first touch can be woeful, unlike Andy who could make that ball stick before laying it off to Little or Deehan. He certainly had more pace than AG, but then, who didn't. As for heading ability, it's a no - contest. 30 goals in one season, that is unlikely to be bettered. Andy Gray was made for that number 9 position at Villa. It was hand in glove. Him standing in front of an adoring, packed Holte, arms up and outstretched. That sight is indelibly etched into the minds of many a Villan. I'm afraid Ollie Watkins has a lot of hard work ahead of himself if he's going to achieve that kind of status. The fact that he wants to improve and more importantly, is prepared to put in the necessary hard work at least gives him the chance to become a claret and blue legend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Zatman said: didnt he score plus was his first game in 2 months Took his goal well and you are right it is the preseason. However, it is an ongoing criticism of mine with regard to his all around play (aside from pressing). I admit I am a bit 'typical villa fan' with regard to Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2022 5 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: When you say a better player than AG, in what way ? Better on the floor, but then his first touch can be woeful, unlike Andy who could make that ball stick before laying it off to Little or Deehan. He certainly had more pace than AG, but then, who didn't. As for heading ability, it's a no - contest. 30 goals in one season, that is unlikely to be bettered. Andy Gray was made for that number 9 position at Villa. It was hand in glove. Him standing in front of an adoring, packed Holte, arms up and outstretched. That sight is indelibly etched into the minds of many a Villan. I'm afraid Ollie Watkins has a lot of hard work ahead of himself if he's going to achieve that kind of status. The fact that he wants to improve and more importantly, is prepared to put in the necessary hard work at least gives him the chance to become a claret and blue legend Oh Andy, your the greatest……….,.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Oh Andy, your the greatest……….,.. Best centre- forward I've seen at Villa Park in claret and blue. And the fact that he still loves the club immensely. "We'll be with you, all the way". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 16, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Best centre- forward I've seen at Villa Park in claret and blue. And the fact that he still loves the club immensely. "We'll be with you, all the way". The last home game of the season where he got his hat-trick against the Albion. Will never ever forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Gotta finish your dinner Ollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I like Ollie a lot. He has been great for us and I still think he is our first choice number 9 but his miss today is a great example of why he will never be a top player. It was such a great chance. He had all options open to him. He could have scored either side of the keeper, tucked it between his legs or the easiest option to take it round the keeper and roll it into an open net. Instead he hit it straight at the keeper who does make a very good save. A top level striker does not give the keeper a chance there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Ollie lacks composure. First touch isn't the best but his composure under pressure in one on one situations is poor. Archer and Ings both finish the chance Ollie missed imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Not basing anything just on that game but once again just proving how wasteful he is. How he starts above Ings is beyond me. Must must improve on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 He wasn't great today looked rusty, but that wasn't a bad miss today, it was a sensational save from the Leeds keeper. Also feel sorrty for Archer, every time Watkins misses a chance we get the comments of how Archer would have buried it, people talking as if Archer is some sort of master marksman that never misses, I hate to break the news but at Championship level he wasn't that prolific, he did very well, but nothing to suggest he would be more prolific than Watkins at Premier League level, my worry is that people are putting way too big expectations on him, and if he doesn't live up to those there will be an unfair backlash. Also Ings misses plenty of chances. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 4 hours ago, useless said: He wasn't great today looked rusty, but that wasn't a bad miss today, it was a sensational save from the Leeds keeper. Also feel sorrty for Archer, every time Watkins misses a chance we get the comments of how Archer would have buried it, people talking as if Archer is some sort of master marksman that never misses, I hate to break the news but at Championship level he wasn't that prolific, he did very well, but nothing to suggest he would be more prolific than Watkins at Premier League level, my worry is that people are putting way too big expectations on him, and if he doesn't live up to those there will be an unfair backlash. Also Ings misses plenty of chances. Disagree here, Ollie has to do better. Just put it in the bottom corner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I wouldn't mind if he sold him and took a real punt on Archer if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Disagree here, Ollie has to do better. Just put it in the bottom corner Poor finishing. If you finish well, the keeper has zero chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I'd go with a bit of both tbh. It was a very good save but he could've struck it more accurately. Watkins has scored and will score those type of goals - he's a top class athlete who works very hard and is pretty smart, but he just isn't quite a natural at what he does. He's like the footballing equivalent of Anthony Joshua. I was thinking today that what sums him up is that despite the fact that he's our first choice striker, you definitely wouldn't pick first to take him a penalty - and that says something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IrishVilla10 Posted July 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2022 Has to put it away 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Disagree here, Ollie has to do better. Just put it in the bottom corner It’s poor finish by Ollie. Yes Meslier had to save it still but Ollie gave him the best chance to. Of all the better places to put it and he puts it there. Yes it happens but too often from Ollie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Watkins today was very poor...that miss was unforgivable even with the finishing coach they hired for him. Im sure we are going to have the exact same problem as last year up top if something is not changed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 We should not persevere with him if we want to progress. I just can’t bear another season of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Presses more than Gabby. Slower than Gabby. Finishes chances the same as Gabby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 That was a really poor finish. He hit it hard, but it was the perfect height for a save and wasn’t really in the corner either. Was a good save, but that was very reactionary because the ball was hit so close to him at a decent speed. Watkins is wasteful and, after McGinn, would be the next player we should be looking to improve upon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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