a-k Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: What a typo I would like to have seen "He totally word removed himself in the foot" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Italian football would really suit his style of play. He could do very well over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I have no doubt he would have been given significant game time last year of he stuck around. He totally shit himself in the foot In retrospect yeah he would have under Emery. Under Gerrard though, no **** chance, and that was the decision he has to make at the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Davkaus said: In retrospect yeah he would have under Emery. Under Gerrard though, no **** chance, and that was the decision he has to make at the time. Hmm not sure about that. Chuck was getting abit of game time under gerrard off the bench. Under emery i agree though wholeheartedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Hmm not sure about that. Chuck was getting abit of game time under gerrard off the bench. Under emery i agree though wholeheartedly To play as a false full back under Clownball He chose wisely to leave that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Zatman said: To play as a false full back under Clownball He chose wisely to leave that Did he? His career has gone downhill since he left us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2023 It's his dream move , he's always been a fan of AC Milan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Hmm not sure about that. Chuck was getting abit of game time under gerrard off the bench. Under emery i agree though wholeheartedly He left him out of our preseason tour of Australia. He wasn't in his plans for this season precisely because of the contract situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Keyblade said: He left him out of our preseason tour of Australia. He wasn't in his plans for this season precisely because of the contract situation. Given the treatment of Archer, I'm not convinced he'd have got much time even if he had signed., 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Given the treatment of Archer, I'm not convinced he'd have got much time even if he had signed., He was taking a chance moving to another team not guaranteed game time, but he was pretty much guaranteed the opposite at Villa. Plus he got to move to a higher profile London club, and probably sextuple his wages. We can be salty, but his decision wasn't as faulty as we make it out to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 14, 2023 He shouldn't have been exposed to the first team until he signed a new deal, his contract situation wasn't handled as well as it should have been. Would he have made it here? I'm not sure tbh, I think the £20m, if that's what we get, was good business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 7 hours ago, tinker said: He shouldn't have been exposed to the first team until he signed a new deal, his contract situation wasn't handled as well as it should have been. Would he have made it here? I'm not sure tbh, I think the £20m, if that's what we get, was good business. I think villa handled everything about as perfectly as we could have done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, villa4europe said: I think villa handled everything about as perfectly as we could have done Except blowing his ego up by calling him the best player of his age in the country. Was a stupid move negotiating wise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Except blowing his ego up by calling him the best player of his age in the country. Was a stupid move negotiating wise Was also the truth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Purslow said Chukwuemeka was best sixteen year old in the country, so that was obvioulsy way back when he was sixteen, that was close to three years before he left, those comments had no bearings on the attempts to try and get him to stay last summer, when Purslow called him best sixteen year old in the country he had just signed his scholarship with us and agreed to sign three year deal when he turns seventeen which he did do. So Purslow's 'best sixteen year old' comments had no effect on negotiations whatsoever, as Carney had already signed a deal at that point and then signed his first professional contract as soon as he turned seventeen, by the time last summer came Purlsow's comments were three years old and they didn't really matter, because everyone by that point would have long known he was one of the best players in his age group. Last summer we offered him big money and promised him first team football, so not sure what else the club could have done, it might have helped if we'd have given him more game time, but somehow I get the feeling he still would have been wanting to leave as soon as likes of Chelsea showed their interest, and not saying that as a criticism of him, during his lifetime they've been one of the best clubs in England and Europe, so can understand a player of his age being drawn in by that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 This thread has grown by thirty-seven pages since he left, Aaron Ramsey thread has grown by twenty-two pages during the same period, why are people talking about Chukwuemeka more than Aaron Ramsey, Ramsey has just had two great loans in the Championship and overall was one of the best young players in that division last season, I still think he's underrated by Villa fans, a lot of whom would love it if we signed someone like Alex Scott, but don't realize that Aaron Ramsey is on the same level, I think in some ways being Jacob's younger brother is detrimental to him in terms of how he's viewed, because many seem to have this idea that 'younger brothers are always said to be better than their older brothers but usally aren't, so he can't be that good', but in Aaron's case he is actually very good in his own right, he's similar level to Chukwuemeka, at some things he's better than Chukwuemeka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Can't moan about Ramsey yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Keyblade said: He left him out of our preseason tour of Australia. He wasn't in his plans for this season precisely because of the contract situation. Im not a gerrard fan but it was thw correct decision. Why play him if he has not intention of signing a contract? This was going on longer than when gerrard arrived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2023 56 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Im not a gerrard fan but it was thw correct decision. Why play him if he has not intention of signing a contract? This was going on longer than when gerrard arrived The die was cast though, his ego was way bigger than his ability at that point. We should play hard ball with these youngsters before they make it into the first team, max length of contract and pay related to performance sort of thing. If they don't sign then freeze them out. Chucks interesting because our business model has placed a large emphasis on bringing talent through to get into the first team. His actions cast a shadow over it, what's happened since has played into our hands with the youngsters, who will still be talking to Chuck and watching his career. Ramsey is a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I wonder how long it will be before he gets his dream move to Al Shabab FC for 50m. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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