sne Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WHY said: Why is the PL a fantasy league? Money doesn’t just appear ffs. It’s generated because it’s so popular throughout the world. Most clubs in the PL are losing money trying to achieve something. Dortmund have that business model because they choose too. They have basically decided that Top 4 is all they want. They are the German version of Arsenal. If their fans are happy then fair play to them. PL or a fantasy league. As I wrote in the post you quoted. No one said the PL is a fantasy league. Again, Dortmund doesn't play in the PL. They don't have the means to make income in a way that the teams they are competing with are. Bayern or the top clubs abroad. Edit: These are their league placings since 10/11 btw. Not sure settling for 4th is even remotely true but it's a cute hot take. 21/22 Bundesliga 22 3 9 85:52 33 69 2 20/21 Bundesliga 20 4 10 75:46 29 64 3 19/20 Bundesliga 21 6 7 84:41 43 69 2 18/19 Bundesliga 23 7 4 81:44 37 76 2 17/18 Bundesliga 15 10 9 64:47 17 55 4 16/17 Bundesliga 18 10 6 72:40 32 64 3 15/16 Bundesliga 24 6 4 82:34 48 78 2 14/15 Bundesliga 13 7 14 47:42 5 46 7 13/14 Bundesliga 22 5 7 80:38 42 71 2 12/13 Bundesliga 19 9 6 81:42 39 66 2 11/12 Bundesliga 25 6 3 80:25 55 81 1 10/11 Bundesliga 23 6 5 67:22 45 75 1 Edited June 26, 2022 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, sne said: PL or a fantasy league. As I wrote in the post you quoted. No one said the PL is a fantasy league. Again, Dortmund doesn't play in the PL. They don't have the means to make income in a way that the teams they are competing with are. Bayern or the top clubs abroad. I just don’t get how a team who get over 70,000 every home game and play CL every season and have a positive net spend over the last 10 seasons can’t compete. Like I said I’m not knocking it but it just makes the Bundesliga a very boring and predictable league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sne Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, WHY said: I just don’t get how a team who get over 70,000 every home game and play CL every season and have a positive net spend over the last 10 seasons can’t compete. Like I said I’m not knocking it but it just makes the Bundesliga a very boring and predictable league. It's simply because Bayern are so far ahead that it's impossible to compete. They way Bayern are owned and run makes it impossible. And fwiw I think the Bundesliga is great to watch. Far from boring imo. Yeah Bayern will win, but City should win the PL unless they have a off year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, sne said: It's simply because Bayern are so far ahead that it's impossible to compete. They way Bayern are owned and run makes it impossible. And fwiw I think the Bundesliga is great to watch. Far from boring imo. Yeah Bayern will win, but City should win the PL unless they have a off year. Plus the way Bayern do business is that they look to strengthen themselves and also weaken a rival by signing their best player(s), which they have done multiple times to Dortmund over the last few years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 4 hours ago, WHY said: I just don’t get how a team who get over 70,000 every home game and play CL every season and have a positive net spend over the last 10 seasons can’t compete. Like I said I’m not knocking it but it just makes the Bundesliga a very boring and predictable league. Because you're only looking at Dortmund and not at bayern is the simple answer Bayern, somehow quietly, are an absolute machine, they're as bad as anyone at the top table but because they don't make the same noise as barca, Madrid, juve etc and people in general revere German football they're somehow seen in a positive light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Steve Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Imagine my shock. People got mad at clickbait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Clickbait as usual. Edited June 27, 2022 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_82 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 18 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Imagine my shock. People got mad at clickbait. Absolutely tearing the kid apart in some quarters based on that article, im pretty sure it will all come clear once he has finished the tournament he is in and had a break 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Patrick Berger the ex footballer? That's one for the players i forgot existed thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, MrBlack said: Patrick Berger the ex footballer? That's one for the players i forgot existed thread. No, Patrick Berger the German journalist. But agree on the second part of your post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 43 minutes ago, cb_82 said: Absolutely tearing the kid apart in some quarters based on that article, im pretty sure it will all come clear once he has finished the tournament he is in and had a break I know it’s a small minority but it’s just embarrassing how angry people got. I really hope Carney is staying. Regardless or not, there’s no place for such idiocy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: i don’t know who to believe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, a m ole said: i don’t know who to believe Nobody, is the best bet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, TRO said: Nobody, is the best bet. I believe you TRO, I believe you 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, Dodgyknees said: I believe you TRO, I believe you 100%. I don't......I just wrote it for effect. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: I believe you TRO, I believe you 100%. Oh come on, the bloke took a pillow to Rotterdam! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, DaveAV1 said: Oh come on, the bloke took a pillow to Rotterdam! Dave, Don't tell everyone....my macho image is blown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Idk if Carney will leave in this window, but surely the matter boils down to this: if he was keen to stay at Villa he'd have signed a deal by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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