mjmooney Posted February 20, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yes and the universal credit top-up of £20 a week is to be extended for 6 months too. But I think they will have to make that permanent because if they take it away in 6 months many people would starve Well, yeah, but only poor people, so where's the problem? </Tory> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well, yeah, but only poor people, so where's the problem? </Tory> Its something that Sunak wanted to avoid but I think its right to keep it as it was the poorest people that were hit hardest by austerity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 20, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, PaulC said: Its something that Sunak wanted to avoid but I think its right to keep it as it was the poorest people that were hit hardest by austerity. Pretty much everything Sunak has done is not of Sunak's political philosophy. Ironically in the eyes of the public, it's making him popular but just wait until normality returns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 11 hours ago, bickster said: Pretty much everything Sunak has done is not of Sunak's political philosophy. Ironically in the eyes of the public, it's making him popular but just wait until normality returns Yes, this £400bn plus has to all be paid back, plus interest. I wonder how popular he’ll be then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Genie said: Yes, this £400bn plus has to all be paid back, plus interest. I wonder how popular he’ll be then. Not really. Interest rates are negative for government borrowing. Investors are paying to provide government debt. Most of the debt is just bonds the government issues to itself and means nothing. It's straying into MMT but essentially, when you operate your own currency, as long as you don't start foreign governments panicking, then you can keep printing money for yourself. The only actual end to that is actual physical resource so if you have trees, oil, gold, etc. This is a great thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Peston or Laura K not tweeted tomorrow’s announcement in full yet? I expected a fake leak so they could gauge the public feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2021 BBC just reported that they have brought the date forward for the over 50's/health condition group by 2 weeks to mid April now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 14/02/2021 at 17:11, sidcow said: Are those new cases numbers the vaccination effect now? They seem to be falling faster than they rose looking at the graph. BBC also reporting that the new cases are falling faster than they did in the first lockdown and that this is probably because of vaccinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 The fall in deaths is still remarkably linear. It hasn't changed from end Feb / start March for a while now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, darrenm said: The fall in deaths is still remarkably linear. It hasn't changed from end Feb / start March for a while now. Looks like the first week of March will be the true test for this hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Just now, Davkaus said: Looks like the first week of March will be the true test for this hypothesis. Yeah. I know it won't reach 0 at that point and pretty soon it should start to level off. So I'm not saying it will follow this, I'm only presenting the data as a graph. Or who knows, perhaps with the amount of at risk people vaccinated by now, it will keep falling at the same rate towards single figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, darrenm said: Yeah. I know it won't reach 0 at that point and pretty soon it should start to level off. So I'm not saying it will follow this, I'm only presenting the data as a graph. Or who knows, perhaps with the amount of at risk people vaccinated by now, it will keep falling at the same rate towards single figures. I was just being silly and commenting on it running in to negative numbers, ignore me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Is this purely speculative, or some ITK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Is this purely speculative, or some ITK? It's from The Times. And has the hallmark of the usual Government "leaked-to-friendly-journalist-prior-to-announcement" comms feel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Nothing about meeting up with people though? I don’t give two tosses about golf, tennis and the gym, I want to go and see my mom and dad. Edited February 21, 2021 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 21, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: Nothing about meeting up with people though? I don’t give two tosses about golf, tennis and the gym, I want to go and see my mom and dad. You can meet them. You all just have to be holding golf clubs at the time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I wonder if hunting will get a mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Genie said: I wonder if hunting will get a mention out of game bird hunting season until the autumn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) Sky News reporting dates for easing as fact now (I knew it would be leaked early) Quote All schools in England will reopen to all pupils on 8 March under the prime minister's roadmap out of lockdown to be announced tomorrow, with outdoor after-school sports and activities also allowed to restart. And on the same date, outdoor recreation with one other person will also be permitted, meaning people will be allowed to sit together in a park with a coffee, drink or picnic. From 29 March, larger groups will be able to meet outside - including in private gardens - up to a maximum of six people or two households. Tennis courts, golf courses and other outdoor sport facilities will also reopen on 29 March, which is the first Monday of most schools' Easter holidays. At the same time, organised adults and children's sport, including grassroots football, will restart. The relaxation of measures is the first stage of a four-part roadmap expected to include the reopening of non-essential retail and hospitality in the coming months. Edited February 21, 2021 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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