RichiBoi11 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: This bloke knows less about the going ons at Aston Villa than my mum, and she still thinks Andy Gray is up top for us. He was on a podcast before Gerrards first game and he said he'd heard Ashley Young was going to potentially play as a number 10. He was laughed out of the building and then come that Saturday Ashley Young was subbed on and played as a 10. I'm not saying he knows everything or anything like that, no journalist does, but to suggest he's completely clueless is clearly wrong. He definitely has some contacts at the club and it's completely plausible that the clubs plan with Archer has changed as well, hence the differing reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, BOF said: If he is going to go out on loan, why not Sunderland? They're in the Championship and if they spend wisely they could be an immediate contender to come up. Or back to Preston come to think of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, TRO said: I think its his execution of the goals,he scores, is the essence of his ability.....not necessarily his numbers...sure numbers matter, but its more about "How" he scores. If you watch his technique, carefully, there is a message in there. I will be really surprised, if he doesn't make it. Yes he has that killer instinct which is rare. Saw it with a young John Deehan when he first broke into the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Will he be given much of a chance in pre season? Watkins and Ings will take most of the mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, messi11 said: Will he be given much of a chance in pre season? Watkins and Ings will take most of the mins If we play 2 up top in pre season then he will get plenty of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, messi11 said: Will he be given much of a chance in pre season? Watkins and Ings will take most of the mins Yes, far more rotation and subs, unless Gerrard does pre season different to everyone else Doubt anyone will play a full 90 in oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 16/06/2022 at 10:23, RichiBoi11 said: If we're looking to play two up top next season then I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be here. Even if a new striker comes in, it makes sense to have 4. Also having 5 subs next season will open more doors for the likes of Archer than in previous seasons. What makes you think we're looking to play two up top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tom13 said: What makes you think we're looking to play two up top? Because we played our best football last season when we moved to two up top. So it'll definitely be played next season along with the 4 3 2 1 formation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tom13 said: What makes you think we're looking to play two up top? Last season we switched between using two 10s and one 9 to one 10 and two 9s, why do you think we wouldn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 16/06/2022 at 09:51, RichiBoi11 said: He definitely has some contacts at the club and it's completely plausible that the clubs plan with Archer has changed as well, hence the differing reports Absolutely, I think people are laughing at him mostly as his opening sentence in that new tweet was “Aston Villa’s stance hasn’t changed” before presenting the changed stance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 17/06/2022 at 12:46, Tom13 said: What makes you think we're looking to play two up top? The fact Gerrard regularly played two up tip for most of the 2nd half of the season and half the games where he didn't Ings wasn't available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 It's really shameful clickbait from the Birmingham Mail - using an unrelated Everton transfer to make it look like we are selling Archer for £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Stateside Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, The_Steve said: It's really shameful clickbait from the Birmingham Mail - using an unrelated Everton transfer to make it look like we are selling Archer for £20m. The stuff is all shameful clickbait. I can’t tell you how many articles that got wrong. I mean just basic facts like they listed us having one owner on richest list in the prem. They no quality control at all Edited June 18, 2022 by Villa_Stateside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Would be good for both parties IMO I wouldn't mind keeping him around either but if they plan to send him out then... Edited June 18, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Would be good for both parties IMO I wouldn't mind keeping him around either but if they plan to send him out then... Norwich would be a terrible move for him. Watford would too tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Cameron Archer is that rare striker .... an instinctive finisher who comes alive in the box. He's not a player who will add to the physicality, or possession stats, but if he's given the right service he will score goals. Gerrard will have to look at the amount of improvement that his signings this summer bring to our attacking play, before deciding whether CA should be part of the match day squad or go out on a good quality loan. The way we played last season will not provide the right service to Archer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Norwich would be a terrible move for him. Watford would too tbh. Norwich are usually at and/or around the top ain't they? OBS haven't watched them loads but thought they would also okay decent football. Why do you reckon it would be terrible? Due to Pukki etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Norwich are usually at and/or around the top ain't they? OBS haven't watched them loads but thought they would also okay decent football. Why do you reckon it would be terrible? Due to Pukki etc? Yes we would expect Norwich & Watford to be towards the top of the league, but..... Norwich have Pukki, probably one of the most proven top level Championship strikers, and Norwich play 1 striker. Watford currently have Dennis, King, Hernandez & Pedro who can play the forward position(s). Archer needs to go somewhere where he plays week in, week out, if that means going to a team somewhere in the top half, rather than a "top 2 team" where he gets less games/minutes, i would send him to another team every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. If he can get a team challenging for top 6, where he regularly plays, great, but i really wouldnt send him out to some clubs if it means he may not get the game time, and by consequence, less experience and may stall. The lad needs minutes, lots of them, at the highest level he can, its a balancing act, and i just dont think Norwich or Watford would be a wise move for his development. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 hours ago, MaVilla said: Yes we would expect Norwich & Watford to be towards the top of the league, but..... Norwich have Pukki, probably one of the most proven top level Championship strikers, and Norwich play 1 striker. Watford currently have Dennis, King, Hernandez & Pedro who can play the forward position(s). Archer needs to go somewhere where he plays week in, week out, if that means going to a team somewhere in the top half, rather than a "top 2 team" where he gets less games/minutes, i would send him to another team every day of the week and twice on a Sunday. If he can get a team challenging for top 6, where he regularly plays, great, but i really wouldnt send him out to some clubs if it means he may not get the game time, and by consequence, less experience and may stall. The lad needs minutes, lots of them, at the highest level he can, its a balancing act, and i just dont think Norwich or Watford would be a wise move for his development. Would like to see him at QPR or Huddersfield for this exact reason. He would walk into both those sides, would start every game and there is a good chance both will be operating at the top end of the league next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Just read somewhere that SG has no intention of letting him our on loan. Guessing he's off to QPR tomorrow then? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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