TRO Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, MaVilla said: maybe they do want him but they dont want to pay anything for him, so they are making their interest "public" to help him decide not to sign another contract...... who knows. could be. so he joins Carney, in the bomb squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TRO said: could be. so he joins Carney, in the bomb squad? who knows what Gerrard will do. Personally though, if Chuk Jr and Luiz refuse to sign contracts, i would try to sell Chuk Jr or failing that bomb him to the u18s (you can have a couple of over ages players in the u18s cant you? - although im sure that wouldnt be beneficial to the u18s, in that instance i would have him training but not playing any games at all), Luiz i would try to sell, or failing that put as a bench warmer (only used when really, really needed - aka i would use him behind pretty much anyone else available who isnt terrible). If we couldnt sell Luiz, i would even go as far as having him training only also, zero games. Edited June 18, 2022 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, MaVilla said: who knows what Gerrard will do. Personally though, if Chuk Jr and Luiz refuse to sign contracts, i would try to sell Chuk Jr or failing that bomb him to the u18s (you can have a couple of over ages players in the u18s cant you? - although im sure that wouldnt be beneficial to the u18s, in that instance i would have him training but not playing any games at all), Luiz i would try to sell, or failing that put as a bench warmer (only used when really, really needed - aka i would use him behind pretty much anyone else available who isnt terrible). If we couldnt sell Luiz, i would even go as far as having him training only also, zero games. I am a big believer in team spirit and having all the players chomping at the bit, to get a start......This creates a power unit and a central " all for one, one for all" syndrome. sure not all players will play, but the right ones will be working hard to get in. I don't want players stinking the place out, with personal issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, TRO said: I am a big believer in team spirit and having all the players chomping at the bit, to get a start......This creates a power unit and a central " all for one, one for all" syndrome. sure not all players will play, but the right ones will be working hard to get in. I don't want players stinking the place out, with personal issues. yeah, i know its a little harsh, but to me you are in, or you are out. If you are out, i would 100% bomb them out to training alone, zero game time, i would put all my effort in to the players who want to be there, and give them the game time also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Really wouldn’t be bothered with him leaving. He really is bang average so if we can improve on him then great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Spoony said: Really wouldn’t be bothered with him leaving. He really is bang average so if we can improve on him then great. I also wouldn’t be too bothered if he left, but I disagree that he’s bang average. I think he is a very good footballer, but his strengths are just not suited to the English game. I think he’d thrive in a slower paced league like Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Luiz has held us back for too long and is bang average on a good day. Slow, poor in the tackle, negative beyond belief and just a legend in his own imagination ..... we need way better than that ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 I love the player, an believe he has the talent, but worry he's not focused on his football 100% at the moment, an next season I really doubt he will be any better. If he goes, he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Definitely indifferent feelings if he goes or stays for me. Can be good but its not often enough. Anything around £20m we’d surely have to take with him not signing a new deal. Never lived up to what he did in that period after covid in his first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, foreveryoung said: I love the player, an believe he has the talent, but worry he's not focused on his football 100% at the moment, an next season I really doubt he will be any better. If he goes, he goes. what on earth is this based on? i'm not his biggest fan but this is a ridiculous accusation based on absolutely nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Talented player, but he lacks the pace and the discipline to be a key CM in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, tomav84 said: what on earth is this based on? i'm not his biggest fan but this is a ridiculous accusation based on absolutely nothing He's got the talent, we rarely see it. I've seen literally about 5 games last season where he has been quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: what on earth is this based on? i'm not his biggest fan but this is a ridiculous accusation based on absolutely nothing To be fair, he posts more about his woman and computer games than he does about football. Maybe doesn't say anything on is own, but combine it with a very indifferent level of form you can see where the accusation comes from. I put it down to him being played out of position for 2 years and getting fed up with it. Edited June 18, 2022 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, MrBlack said: To be fair, he posts more about his woman and computer games than he does about football. Maybe doesn't say anything on is own, but combine it with a very indifferent level of form you can see where the accusation comes from. I put it down to him being played out of position for 2 years and getting fed up with it. Outa of curiosity I checked his Instagram and see he has posted pictures of him in a Villa shirt with a caption of Tomorrow I’ll be waiting for you there? I don’t get the accusations at all. As far as I’m aware he is still contracted to Villa and plays a lot of minutes. Never seen him not try tbh. Edited June 19, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, villabromsgrove said: Talented player, but he lacks the pace and the discipline to be a key CM in the PL. Could be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I put it down to him being played out of position for 2 years and getting fed up with it. Didn’t Man City sign him as a dm though and it’s a position he’s always played? I think it’s only Villa fans that say he is being played out of position, I’m not sure he has ever said anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted June 18, 2022 I thought he was very good last season. He's a really good footballer with a good footballing brain and the ability to keep the ball. I think he's going though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 14 hours ago, Paul33 said: Luiz has held us back for too long and is bang average on a good day. Slow, poor in the tackle, negative beyond belief and just a legend in his own imagination ..... we need way better than that ! If only he ran around aimlessly and played a bunch of long balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, MrBlack said: To be fair, he posts more about his woman and computer games than he does about football. Maybe doesn't say anything on is own, but combine it with a very indifferent level of form you can see where the accusation comes from. I put it down to him being played out of position for 2 years and getting fed up with it. Yeah that annoying way grown adults make leaps of logic and form strong opinions based on random unrelated bits of information that don't necessarily mean anything. And often to fit preconcieved ideas! Tbh, for me, I think maybe Luiz is just lacking in some qualities needed to boss this level—number one being any real pace. He's a good player and has a lot to offer though. Edited June 19, 2022 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanVilla Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 hours ago, tomav84 said: what on earth is this based on? i'm not his biggest fan but this is a ridiculous accusation based on absolutely nothing Agreed. I don’t think it’s lack of effort. Issue with Luiz is he’s not good enough to be a 6 and he’s not mobile enough to be an 8 in our system. We’ve progressed and he really hasn’t. Somewhere where the intensity is slower like Serie A could suit him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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