Tom13 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, John said: You haven't missed much. Neither look very happy to be at Villa Park below and they both played like it (Bosco was worst of the two for me by a distance, with Ross making Scott Hogan look decent by comparison)! I was just messing around and being pedantic as he'd spelt both of their names wrong. Unfortunately I know all too well who they both are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 25/11/2021 at 20:43, pete101 said: Think this lad has got a pass off some because he is Brazilian, let's be honest it's close between him or Bosco Balaban on who our worst signing has been, id even have Ross McCormick ahead of him I will pretend I didn't read that and not dignify it with a comment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 In hindsight it probably should have been a 4 year deal with an option. I imagine the club are already seeking out the possibility of getting him paid up. He was never good enough really, in another world he would have maybe progressed to a sub striker striker throw on....but with the injury I think he's completely been finished off now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The reality is that he isn’t good enough, and never was, and sadly certainly never will be because of his unfortunate injury. Time to just move him on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, Spoony said: The reality is that he isn’t good enough, and never was, and sadly certainly never will be because of his unfortunate injury. Time to just move him on. You mean pay his contract off? May as well just let it expire and he can try and find load moves in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You mean pay his contract off? May as well just let it expire and he can try and find load moves in the meantime. I was thinking more shift him on for free or a nominal fee if poss. Do other clubs waste as much money as Villa??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Spoony said: I was thinking more shift him on for free or a nominal fee if poss. Do other clubs waste as much money as Villa??? Not sure if you've noticed but Everton have constructed a massive bonfire of £50 notes over the last 5 years and set fire to it. 0.5bn of spending for absolutely nothing. If anything they have gone backwards. Morgan Schneiderlin, Davy Klassen, Cenk Tosun, that sex offender bloke. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 And now they have Townsend, Gray, Iwobi and Rondon as attacking players! Rafa is a bit too obsessed with buying average players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spoony said: I was thinking more shift him on for free or a nominal fee if poss. Do other clubs waste as much money as Villa??? Yep as other have mentioned. We could always be Everton! I’d say Man U have pissed a lot of money up the wall in recent years too. As for Wesley, I doubt anyone will pay his wages. Edited November 29, 2021 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 All PL-clubs have pissed away a lot of money in the last couple years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Yep as other have mentioned. We could always be Everton! I’d say Man U have pissed a lot of money up the wall in recent years too. As for Wesley, I doubt anyone will pay his wages. They've got better recently. But Liverpool pissed billions up the wall over the years- but for some reason it never gets reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 08:33, villalad21 said: You don't suddenly lose all your ability because you've been out for a year. People needs to accept the possibility that he never was very good in the first place. I always wonder why people struggle with the most likely reasoning. It's as above really. Apparently he was having a good half against Burnley though ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hippo said: I always wonder why people struggle with the most likely reasoning. It's as above really. Apparently he was having a good half against Burnley though ! Ok so player has a great season at club scoring goals in both league and champions league. Title winner and young player of the year. Gets move to Premier League and struggles. Showed potential signs of slight improvement but has an injury that puts him out for a season and a half. Never cut it in this league so returns to team where he was a great success. Cant get any minutes. Yep nothing to do with the Injury. He’s just always been shit. Edited November 29, 2021 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Ok so player has a great season at club scoring goals in both league and champions league. Title winner. Gets move to Premier League and struggles. Showed potential signs of slight improvement but has an injury that puts him out for a season and a half. Never cut it in this league so returns to team where he was a great success. Cant get any minutes. Yep nothing to do with the Injury. He’s just always been shit. ???? Didn't think he'd ever scored that many goals ? - thought he got about 11 in the season before we brought him ? How many champions League goals has he got ? Every club signs the odd shit player mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hippo said: ???? Didn't think he'd ever scored that many goals ? - thought he got about 11 in the season before we brought him ? How many champions League goals has he got ? Every club signs the odd shit player mate. You’re totally missing the point. He played well in that league for that same team. Doesn’t mean he was good enough for us but he was good enough for them. He proved that.However now he is not even good enough for them. So how can anyone say it’s because he has always been shit and nothing to do with the injury. Absolutely ridiculous. Edited November 29, 2021 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: You’re totally missing the point. He played well in that league for that same team. Doesn’t mean he was good enough for us but he was good enough for them. He proved that.However now he is not even good enough for them. So how can anyway say it’s because he has always been shit and nothing to do with the injury. Absolutely ridiculous. Yes I was totally missing your point. My point was he was never good enough for the premier League. (The league we play in) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Yes I was totally missing your point. My point was he was never good enough for the premier League. (The league we play in) I agree with that although the injury means we’ll never find out if he could have been. The person you were replying to was suggesting he has never been good and the injury means nothing. I just think that’s unfair. Edited November 29, 2021 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 An injury like that would affect you mentally though. Not saying he would have made the grade or not, but he might think twice before going into a tackle because of the injury. Also, it's not uncommon for someone to look poor in your first season at a new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 18 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Ok so player has a great season at club scoring goals in both league and champions league. Title winner and young player of the year. Gets move to Premier League and struggles. Showed potential signs of slight improvement but has an injury that puts him out for a season and a half. Never cut it in this league so returns to team where he was a great success. Cant get any minutes. Yep nothing to do with the Injury. He’s just always been shit. Shit in premier league terms. Wesley was never gonna be a long term solution for us. Injury or no injury. Can't get any minutes now possibly because managers don't favor loan players, or simply because they have better striker options who are at a higher level than Wesley ever were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Shit in premier league terms. Wesley was never gonna be a long term solution for us. Injury or no injury. Can't get any minutes now possibly because managers don't favor loan players, or simply because they have better striker options who are at a higher level than Wesley ever were. Or perhaps he isn’t the same player he was before he got seriously injured? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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