Racism Part two

[Davkaus]

4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

As I said he will hopefully become an icon for change. 

Over and above the employment numbers?

[coda]

 

If you have a spare 45 minutes 

[mikeyp102]

I see Dwight Yorke is weighing in again on the race debate. Again saying he doesn’t get interviews because he’s black. He’s also saying that the only reason he is labelled a “playboy” is because the colour of his skin. 
 

So in the first point, I’m sure there is discrimination at football clubs, and the likes of Lampard, Gerard and Terry to name a few have all got big jobs with little experience. But they also put in work and tried to get experience at other places. They are also players who were leaders on the pitch and always expected to go into coaching. Dwight Yorke, does not scream as the type of player who would make a coach, I don’t recall him captaining many clubs. Also has he ever applied for any other jobs, because all he ever mentions is that he tried for the Villa job twice and got rejected. If he wanted a role that much he’d apply for others. 
Long winded way of saying it, but I don’t think  Dwight Yorke is rejected because of his race.

 

On the second part, I’ve never heard the term playboy as a racist term. The first footballer I think of when hearing that term is George Best. I’d say the reason Dwight Yorke is called a playboy is because he allegedly shagged glamour models, and allegedly made a porno with bozzie 

[Davkaus]

I wouldn't want Yorke at Villa because he's a complete word removed.  Campbell is another one who comes across as an egotistical prick with a chip on his shoulder.

The numbers do make you wonder though.

[Keyblade]

9 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said:

I see Dwight Yorke is weighing in again on the race debate. Again saying he doesn’t get interviews because he’s black. He’s also saying that the only reason he is labelled a “playboy” is because the colour of his skin. 
 

So in the first point, I’m sure there is discrimination at football clubs, and the likes of Lampard, Gerard and Terry to name a few have all got big jobs with little experience. But they also put in work and tried to get experience at other places. They are also players who were leaders on the pitch and always expected to go into coaching. Dwight Yorke, does not scream as the type of player who would make a coach, I don’t recall him captaining many clubs. Also has he ever applied for any other jobs, because all he ever mentions is that he tried for the Villa job twice and got rejected. If he wanted a role that much he’d apply for others. 
Long winded way of saying it, but I don’t think  Dwight Yorke is rejected because of his race.

 

On the second part, I’ve never heard the term playboy as a racist term. The first footballer I think of when hearing that term is George Best. I’d say the reason Dwight Yorke is called a playboy is because he allegedly shagged glamour models, and allegedly made a porno with bozzie 

Yeah Yorke doesn't strike me as the managerial type but to be fair I'm not privy to what goes on behind the scenes. I think Sol Campbell's shout is more believable if all we have to go by is speculation. When you look at the statistics it really does seem fishy though. I wonder what Patrick Viera has to say about this. I expected him to be managing a big club by now.

[Dom_Wren]

3 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

Yeah, Texas, lone star and all that.

Best states flag is Arizona, btw.

Got a giant Arizona flag knocking around somewhere.

I see your Arizona and raise you Hawaii

I actually like SC's as well.

[Dom_Wren]

4 hours ago, blandy said:

Ah Thanks, that would make sense, as there used to be a mahoosive @Dom_Wren type Ford pick up parked across the road from that house.

Thing is, I might have to not do the racism, as maybe Texans are better at it than I would be? I might stick to not being a word removed for the time being (yeah, yeah...).

First On Race Day is what ford stands for, whoop yeah bo, MERICA!!....... (or fix or repair daily, if you're a chevvy guy)

Edited June 9, 2020 by Dom_Wren
obliviously an and does not start with an O. DOH!!!

[chrisp65]

1 minute ago, Dom_Wren said:

I see your Arizona and raise you Hawaii

I actually like SC's as well.

No no no no no

That can get in the queue with all those other red, white and blue stripes. It’s fascinating that places can have absolutely any design they fancy and so many go for those basic red, white, blue variants.

[Dom_Wren]

Just now, chrisp65 said:

No no no no no

That can get in the queue with all those other red, white and blue stripes. It’s fascinating that places can have absolutely any design they fancy and so many go for those basic red, white, blue variants.

Maybe im just home sick....

[Vive_La_Villa]

I thought this was quite good. From 2017.  Mods apologies if I've broken any rules posting this.  I don't mean to offend anyone.

 

 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa

[chrisp65]

1 minute ago, Dom_Wren said:

Maybe im just home sick....

That corner of the flag was the only bit that was interesting.

 

[snowychap]

3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Very much on topic for the thread, at the end of this video you can have the joy of watching Nick Ferrari asking Afua Hirsch why she doesn't leave the country and live somewhere else if she has problems with it:

He'd have lost his job for saying that about a dozen years ago; I bet nothing at all happens today.

It's an utterly stupid line for people to take.

On the subject of it being said to white people, though, I have heard it said to/directed at white people though not so much recently. It was often trotted out against union leaders and various Labour politicians in the 80s - "Why don't you go and live in Russia if you hate it here so much?" was quite a common refrain from memory.

Edit: Just caught up with your (and other) subsequent posts saying similar to the above.

Edited June 9, 2020 by snowychap

[PaulC]

1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said:

I see Dwight Yorke is weighing in again on the race debate. Again saying he doesn’t get interviews because he’s black. He’s also saying that the only reason he is labelled a “playboy” is because the colour of his skin. 
 

So in the first point, I’m sure there is discrimination at football clubs, and the likes of Lampard, Gerard and Terry to name a few have all got big jobs with little experience. But they also put in work and tried to get experience at other places. They are also players who were leaders on the pitch and always expected to go into coaching. Dwight Yorke, does not scream as the type of player who would make a coach, I don’t recall him captaining many clubs. Also has he ever applied for any other jobs, because all he ever mentions is that he tried for the Villa job twice and got rejected. If he wanted a role that much he’d apply for others. 
Long winded way of saying it, but I don’t think  Dwight Yorke is rejected because of his race.

 

On the second part, I’ve never heard the term playboy as a racist term. The first footballer I think of when hearing that term is George Best. I’d say the reason Dwight Yorke is called a playboy is because he allegedly shagged glamour models, and allegedly made a porno with bozzie 

I saw the Sterling interview about why no black managers or Black mps. Maybe there is something in it I don't know but the ones that have been in management like Henry haven't exactly done that well. As far as MPS go I'm sure theres quite a few Asian mps. 

[mikeyp102]

57 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Yeah Yorke doesn't strike me as the managerial type but to be fair I'm not privy to what goes on behind the scenes. I think Sol Campbell's shout is more believable if all we have to go by is speculation. When you look at the statistics it really does seem fishy though. I wonder what Patrick Viera has to say about this. I expected him to be managing a big club by now.

Yeah credit to Campbell he at least went to get a job in the lower leagues and was willing to learn. 
Looking up Vieira it appears he’s at Nice now. You would expect him to be in a bigger profile role, infact you’d think more from that French team would’ve made coaches Thuram, Desailly definitely spring to mind as people who I would picture going into management. 
The amount of black players in the game, you’d think there would more who go into management, and if they haven’t had it been racism stopping them. 

[Keyblade]

1 minute ago, mikeyp102 said:

Yeah credit to Campbell he at least went to get a job in the lower leagues and was willing to learn. 
Looking up Vieira it appears he’s at Nice now. You would expect him to be in a bigger profile role, infact you’d think more from that French team would’ve made coaches Thuram, Desailly definitely spring to mind as people who I would picture going into management. 
The amount of black players in the game, you’d think there would more who go into management, and if they haven’t had it been racism stopping them. 

Vieria was the captain of The Invincibles, won a World Cup, Euros etc, it's actually wild when you think about it. It's not like he didn't do his due diligence with his badges, assistant coaching etc. His nemesis Roy Keane even got to manage in the Prem, or even his much lower profile Arsenal teammate and compatriot Remi Garde

[PaulC]

Rio Ferdinand who I think was the best England CB since Bobby Moore I thought would have got a management job. 

Edited June 9, 2020 by PaulC

[Keyblade]

Gary Neville managing Valencia is like if Patrice Evra managed Leverkusen shortly after retirement. Still boggles the mind that one.

[Follyfoot]

I thought big Dave got the boot at the Albion a little too quickly for my liking, (Good job in retrospect because if he’d been manager in the play-off semis I think they probably would have  beat us)

[Keyblade]

7 minutes ago, Follyfoot said:

I thought big Dave got the boot at the Albion a little too quickly for my liking, (Good job in retrospect because if he’d been manager in the play-off semis I think they probably would have  beat us)

I was saying this to my brother the other day (we were watching an old Filthy Fellas episode where they were talking about him). Pretty sure they would have beat us if he was still there, thank God the chairman was a fool.

Edited June 9, 2020 by Keyblade

[Xela]

22 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

Gary Neville managing Valencia is like if Patrice Evra managed Leverkusen shortly after retirement. Still boggles the mind that one.

Peter Lim owns Valencia and 40% of Salford City along with the class of '92. He needed someone to take over Valencia quickly on a short term basis until the end of the season. Kind of makes sense to a point as Neville was highly regarded as a coach at that time.