Adam2003 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: What could he improve on? This year, we've seen him running with the ball much more (and positive, progressive runs), we've seen he can score (good) goals with both feet. Maybe taking up dangerous positions and helping transitions a bit more? Alleviating pressure on our defenders by taking the ball from them in deep areas? I can't really put a finger on a weakness of his that won't come naturally through more games being played and growing stronger.. Which is a great sign. Keep it up Jacob! Start scoring loads of headers from set pieces like a young Tim Cahill perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: What could he improve on? This year, we've seen him running with the ball much more (and positive, progressive runs), we've seen he can score (good) goals with both feet. Maybe taking up dangerous positions and helping transitions a bit more? Alleviating pressure on our defenders by taking the ball from them in deep areas? I can't really put a finger on a weakness of his that won't come naturally through more games being played and growing stronger.. Which is a great sign. Keep it up Jacob! Bingo. He basically just needs more experience of dealing with pressure on the ball, but that will only come with more playing time. The dream is for him to, essentially, develop into the type of player that Gerrard was. Probably a good thing that Gerrard is his manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted May 13, 2022 Moderator Share Posted May 13, 2022 What a player he could be next season. Double figure goals please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 So Gallagher and Mitchell from Palace get nominated for Young Player of the year but Jacob is nowhere to be seen Also in the mix are Foden Rice Sako Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: So Gallagher and Mitchell from Palace get nominated for Young Player of the year but Jacob is nowhere to be seen Also in the mix are Foden Rice Sako Does that surprise you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted May 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: So Gallagher and Mitchell from Palace get nominated for Young Player of the year but Jacob is nowhere to be seen Also in the mix are Foden Rice Sako Wouldn't worry about it its a load of bollocks anyway Declan Rice in his 6th season up for young player, surprised sterling and Milner haven't got the nod 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Does that surprise you? Not really. And thinking about it some more they have both made their full england debuts . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 It should be reworded along the lines of breakthrough rather than young 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: Does that surprise you? The media bias is unreal. It’s a joke that 23 is considered young too. Sky just want to suck up to the Sky 6. JJ deserves lots of awards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: So Gallagher and Mitchell from Palace get nominated for Young Player of the year but Jacob is nowhere to be seen Also in the mix are Foden Rice Sako I think the players chosen are pretty much bang on tbh. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Adam2003 said: Disagree. Should 100% be a first teamer BUT to your point of time we should be forgiving of him when he has bad games or a poor run. He’s still learning and needs time - but he needs it learning his trade in the PL. Unfortunately we are not in the game to give players time to develop playing first team football We cannot afford poor runs and to be forgiving. If he is not performing 100% he needs to be dropped for someone who can. Gone are the days you had time to blood youth in the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Unfortunately we are not in the game to give players time to develop playing first team football We cannot afford poor runs and to be forgiving. If he is not performing 100% he needs to be dropped for someone who can. Gone are the days you had time to blood youth in the first team. Even chimpanzees can grasp delayed gratification but it is sadly beyond some of our fans… We need to give him time for OUR long-term benefit, not his. Edit: if the manager has listened to the fans saying “he’s not good enough, drop him” when he played him last season, he never would have developed into our player of the season this year. The example of why you show faith in a young player and keep them playing is, well, this actual player. Edited May 13, 2022 by Adam2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Even chimpanzees can grasp delayed gratification but it is sadly beyond some of our fans… We need to give him time for OUR long-term benefit, not his. He's getting coached by Premier league coaches, that's the benefit! He gets in the first team when the manager feels he's good and ready, not just to learn his trade. The pressure is on next season, if he is not performing, he won't be playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: He's getting coached by Premier league coaches, that's the benefit! He gets in the first team when the manager feels he's good and ready, not just to learn his trade. The pressure is on next season, if he is not performing, he won't be playing! You have to play to improve, simple as that. Not a real need to for us to argue about it anyway, he was our best player this season so not like it’s much of a concern in this case! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: You have to play to improve, simple as that. Not a real need to for us to argue about it anyway, he was our best player this season so not like it’s much of a concern in this case! It’s like most things a balancing act. Of course players need time to develop and find/regain form. Equally we all know it’s a brutal environment with nowhere to hide. Too much patience can get a manager the sack. Too little patience can also get a manager the sack and lose players. We’ve certainly got it right with JJ so far, as you correctly point out. Success has many fathers, but failure is always a b&stard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Villain Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 This kid could go very very far. Being a midfielder, having Gerrard as his manager and having Coutinho playing alongside him? He must be pinching himself and wondering when he is going to wake up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Ramsey being in the side has never hindered the team, he's always been at least competent and not looked out of place, which is a good sign for a player new out of the academy, and this season he's been one of our best if not our best player. Unless he has a massive dip in form and doesn't recover, he's going to be a regular in our starting line-up for a while to come, he's probably the player most other teams would take off us if they could have any player from our squad. Similar with Chukwuemeka and Iroegbunam, neither have hindered the team with their presence and both have looked promisingly competent, Chukwuemeka more than that on occasions, and I'm sure we will see more of Iroegbunam's standout qualities the more game time he has. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 58 minutes ago, DJ_Villain said: This kid could go very very far. Being a midfielder, having Gerrard as his manager and having Coutinho playing alongside him? He must be pinching himself and wondering when he is going to wake up Thats all well and good, but he has to do it himself. I see a huge player in him....his next development for me, is to dominate the ball more. on to the next phase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, useless said: Ramsey being in the side has never hindered the team, he's always been at least competent and not looked out of place, which is a good sign for a player new out of the academy, and this season he's been one of our best if not our best player. Unless he has a massive dip in form and doesn't recover, he's going to be a regular in our starting line-up for a while to come, he's probably the player most other teams would take off us if they could have any player from our squad. Similar with Chukwuemeka and Iroegbunam, neither have hindered the team with their presence and both have looked promisingly competent, Chukwuemeka more than that on occasions, and I'm sure we will see more of Iroegbunam's standout qualities the more game time he has. Tims game particularly, will benefit from experience....reading the game well, is a huge asset for a player in his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, foreveryoung said: He's getting coached by Premier league coaches, that's the benefit! He gets in the first team when the manager feels he's good and ready, not just to learn his trade. The pressure is on next season, if he is not performing, he won't be playing! Got a feeling he’s going to be in the first XI quite a lot next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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