osmark86 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Happy about this. Deano is the first manager in many years I truly like. I hope he stays on and brings us to the top. The feel good factor would be överlöad! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: You think he’s better than MON was for us? Yes. but he hasn't achieved 6-6-6-.....but in time he will. Martin presided over a team from 2006-2011 ......In the 13 seasons from 1995/6 to 2010/11 only dipped below 10th 3 times, 3 times out of 13 seasons......so stability to a degree was there.....His was a tweaking job, in the main. I would Say Dean has had a much tougher job, taking Villa up on a very unstable back drop, has been stupendous. Its been a rebuild and thanks to the owners who have made it all possible for Dean and the backroom staff to shine. I think Dean is only just getting started. Edited November 29, 2019 by TRO 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New_Hope Posted November 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) MON was a cheque book manager with limited footballing mantra. DS has had to turn around the whole playing style whilst getting us promoted with pretty much someone else's squad and then had to rebuild the foundations to sustain premier league football in just over a year. Remarkable job! Edited November 29, 2019 by New_Hope 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, TRO said: Yes. but he hasn't achieved 6-6-6-.....but in time he will. Martin presided over a team from 2006-2011 ......In the 13 seasons from 1995 to 2011 only dipped below 10th 3 times, 3 times out of 13 seasons......so stability to a degree was there.....His was a tweaking job. I would Say Dean has had a much tougher job, taking Villa up on a very unstable back drop, has been stupendous. Its been a rebuild and thanks to the owners who have made it all possible for Dean and the backroom staff. I think Dean is only just getting started. MON was at Villa from 2006-2010, I agree entirely with the rest of your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, sir_gary_cahill said: MON was at Villa from 2006-2010, I agree entirely with the rest of your post sorry, got my stats wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) It's different time really. Back then Man. City were just another bang average mid table team. Spurs were decent but still lacked that something to finish in the top 4 and they were making odd decisions regarding managers and signings. Newcastle were on the comedown in the early stages of Ashley's ownership and Leeds who'd been very strong in the late 90s/early 00s e.g. usually finishing above us but they'd just got relegated. Of course in that period we weren't great shakes ourselves (in the 4 years before MON came in I think we finished 16th twice and also 11th and even in the 6th place season under O'Leary we were in the relegation zone coming up to xmas) but it was certainly easier to finish 5th or 6th in those days imo. Now the field at the top is much stronger with an incredible top 2. Ironically it's a shame we haven't been back at this level for longer as we could really have attacked top 6 this year with Arsenal, Spurs and Man. United all having transitional seasons and not great. Leicester have been building gradually last 2 years and have really attacked the league this year and are getting their rewards with a deserved high placing and I can see them staying in the top 4. Anyway we're looking good to stay up and next season the target should be top half. After that europe otherwise likes of McGinn and Grealish will outgrow us as they'll want to play CL eventually. It's would be like summer 2010 again. I think it's important we show real ambition in the transfer market next summer and go for a couple of top level players to really boost the club and get extra 5% our of existing squad. It's what Man. City did in their first few years after the takeover. If DS establishes us back in top 6 and europe that to me will be a great achievement than MON days as ultimately we didn't win a trophy or make CL in those seasons despite all the hype and the way we're going about things now feels much more sustainable than our approach back then. Edited November 30, 2019 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Congratulations boss. Huge statement from the board. He's in for the long haul. Him and Purslow are such a great pair. Absolute respect and appreciation of what the other does. Dean has no interest in boardrooms and schmoozing agents. Give him some footballs, cones and players willing to learn. At some point though...please giz a look at a back three and some alternates up front Deano. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 hours ago, useless said: Milwaukee Bucks are are Basketball team, they thought about buying a US Soccer team but decided against it because that didn't offer the opportunity of champions league football. Sorry I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you just meant a major league sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Good news! Just hope this doesn't turn into a Lambert situation I don't think it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted November 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2019 4 years? For Dean Smith?! What is the board thinking?! .... they are thinking to the future having found the man that will lead us there - something that was waaaaaay beyond the ability and foresight of previous boards. Sensational news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted November 30, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 hours ago, VillaChris said: I think it's important we show real ambition in the transfer market next summer and go for a couple of top level players to really boost the club and get extra 5% our of existing squad. It's what Man. City did in their first few years after the takeover. Agree with this, its the only way we can hope to keep our better players, showing them we have ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 15 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: You think he’s better than MON was for us? God yes!! Then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Great news he committed. I just don't like 4 yr contracts, I think managers should have a maximum of 2 yr contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Wes Edens already owns the milwaukee bucks. milwaukee bucks play basketball not football? Just seen someone has already pulled you up for that one. Edited November 30, 2019 by zab6359 Added a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 8 hours ago, VillaChris said: I think it's important we show real ambition in the transfer market next summer and go for a couple of top level players to really boost the club and get extra 5% our of existing squad. It's what Man. City did in their first few years after the takeover. I tend to disagree I don't think our owners have as deep pockets as the Arabs for a start, and we also won't be able to generate anything like the revenue Citeh do on a match day. We need a long term plan, similar to how Leicester are doing it. Buy cheap sell at a premium and re-invest. Hopefully with the structure we now have in place we can do that. Oh and sort the friggin academy out just not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 26 minutes ago, zab6359 said: Great news he committed. I just don't like 4 yr contracts, I think managers should have a maximum of 2 yr contracts. Why do you think this? I think it shows that he’s committed to the football club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, zab6359 said: God yes!! Then some. I think you’re correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Why do you think this? I think it shows that he’s committed to the football club Nothing do with DS I just don't think 4 yr contracts are good for managers, it's like here you are have 48 months pay at x amount and if you turn out shit well we'll just pay out the remainder of those 48 months and send you on your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Just now, zab6359 said: Nothing do with DS I just don't think 4 yr contracts are good for managers, it's like here you are have 48 months pay at x amount and if you turn out shit well we'll just pay out the remainder of those 48 months and send you on your way. What if he turns out good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, zab6359 said: milwaukee bucks play basketball not football? Just seen someone has already pulled you up for that one. What he said was a major league team not a team that plays in the mls. Major league refers to any of the 4 big sports in America football, baseball, basketball and crap rugby. MLS is major league soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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