Dean Smith

[Czechlad]

18 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

How any one can defend Dean Smith after the last 13 games is beyond me. The guy is so far out of his depth its like when leeds appointed Hockaday! The bloke isn't an aston villa manager in any description. Ron Saunders would be shaking his head. Massive ego and massive charisma is whats needed at villa. we have got the ginger pisshead who's always on the fruit machines in ladbrokes....and who is a nervous wreck!

The players obviously havnt got a clue what he wants them to do.

I've said all along it was the wrong appointment. It was just like when we appointed Remi Gard....It was just like one of my massive turds disappearing down the bog in slowly stinking the whole trap out.

All his so called tactical changes are just like for like bottle job swaps. 2 wingers for 2 wingers. Waits until we are 3 down before thinking oh shit the fans are going to get nasty now I'd better do something.

Bringing on Elmo last night was like going down to 10 men.

Sorry but unless the 2 idiots who have controlling shares in the club make some hard decisions right now then we will be having this discussion next october.

The fans are already scrapping on the terraces.

Smith is making me feel like the miserable band the smiths with his bullshit press conferences full of flap.

He's always having a sly pop at the fans, "its a tough place to come on when we are behind at Villa Park" now he's started name calling the players. Bet they love him even more for that!

West Brom is MUST WIN

Wow there is overreaction, then there is this. 

My main complaint of Dean is he is stubborn. He wants to play with his formation, and currently we don't have the players for it. He is trying to force a system that doesn't work with these players. 

But for yesterday's subs, I really don't know what you expected? He brought Green on for Adomah which was probably the smartest sub, but then El Ghazi got immediately hurt. What was he going to do? Sub Kodjia for El Ghazi? Elmo was our only winger left so that's why he subbed 2 wingers. 

Look at the team. What are Dean's options? Outside of Tammy, no one is scoring. How does he fix that? He has given Kodjia numerous chances, but Kodjia isn't doing it. Hogan has been poor for a while so he sent him on loan. Our wingers aren't consistent so he is switching it up, and still gets called out for it. 

Dean has tried a lot of different players, but it's not working. At some point we have to look at the squad and realize most are at the end of their careers, and just cannot do what Dean needs of them. 

[Vive_La_Villa]

In regards to Dean Smith I don’t really know what to think anymore. Don’t want to write him off but I think our current form is now the worst it’s been since we got relegated.

The pressure will only increase from here. Maybe the return of Jack can give us the boost we desperately need.

[jim]

10 hours ago, Demitri_C said:

El Ghazi has looked gash recently.

El Gashi 

[Mark Albrighton]

6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

In regards to Dean Smith I don’t really know what to think anymore. Don’t want to write him off but I think our current form is now the worst it’s been since we got relegated.

The pressure will only increase from here. Maybe the return of Jack can give us the boost we desperately need.

It’s close, but I don’t it’s the worst it’s been. I can think of a couple of times which were as bad as this, arguably more so (definitely in one of the examples).

However if it carries on for the rest of the season, a couple more wins at most say, I do wonder what the club will do.

As others have said, I’m sort of looking at the rest of the season with a mindset of “Ok Dean, show us why you’re the man to take charge next season.” It hasn’t got to be regular 3-0 wins against promotion hopefuls, but something to suggest he has a plan moving forward.

[Darth Villa]

It's not taken long for this thread to mimic the Steve Bruce page's has it?

Still way too early to judge but yet again being a Villa fan isn't fun anymore, poor results, poor performance and poor effort from player's and arguably coaching staff alike.

It is too soon to really tell whether Smith is Graham Turner mk2 or just waiting to ship out the dross, so perhaps we should let it play out this season and judge next year? We're not going to make the play-offs but neither are we ready for the Premier League either (but the cash would help).

We are Aston Villa, always in transition and most definitely lost 

Edited February 14, 2019 by Darth Villa

[Vive_La_Villa]

13 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said:

However if it carries on for the rest of the season, a couple more wins at most say, I do wonder what the club will do.

May depend on who is available in the summer. A massive rebuild is needed and it really is crucial we have the right people overseeing its. Whether that be the current setup or a significant change.

[screwdriver]

It's simple.............. go direct 442 launch balls up to Kenian Davis and let abraham pick up the flick ons......... have a narrow 4 in midfield so they don't get outnumbered aswell.

My bet is the clulesss smith family will read this post and txt  deano and he'll set up like this against the bags.....if they havnt used all their pay as you go credit that is.

Davis transformed our season last year with his back to goal hold up play, and I back him to do the same this year. If Stubborn Smithy has any iota on how to win football matches.

[El Zen]

3 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

My bet is the clulesss smith family will read this post and txt  deano and he'll set up like this against the bags.....if they havnt used all their pay as you go credit that is.

What the actual .... is this? 

[villabromsgrove]

18 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

It's simple.............. go direct 442 launch balls up to Kenian Davis and let abraham pick up the flick ons......... have a narrow 4 in midfield so they don't get outnumbered aswell.

My bet is the clulesss smith family will read this post and txt  deano and he'll set up like this against the bags.....if they havnt used all their pay as you go credit that is.

 

It's disappointing to read this sort of insulting post aimed at the Villa manager's family. Opinions are fine, personal abuse is not!

[New_Hope]

30 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

It's simple.............. go direct 442 launch balls up to Kenian Davis and let abraham pick up the flick ons......... have a narrow 4 in midfield so they don't get outnumbered aswell.

 

Hello Sam Allerdyce x

[MikeAVFC]

1 hour ago, screwdriver said:

How any one can defend Dean Smith after the last 13 games is beyond me. The guy is so far out of his depth its like when leeds appointed Hockaday! The bloke isn't an aston villa manager in any description. Ron Saunders would be shaking his head. Massive ego and massive charisma is whats needed at villa. we have got the ginger pisshead who's always on the fruit machines in ladbrokes....and who is a nervous wreck!

The players obviously havnt got a clue what he wants them to do.

I've said all along it was the wrong appointment. It was just like when we appointed Remi Gard....It was just like one of my massive turds disappearing down the bog in slowly stinking the whole trap out.

All his so called tactical changes are just like for like bottle job swaps. 2 wingers for 2 wingers. Waits until we are 3 down before thinking oh shit the fans are going to get nasty now I'd better do something.

Bringing on Elmo last night was like going down to 10 men.

Sorry but unless the 2 idiots who have controlling shares in the club make some hard decisions right now then we will be having this discussion next october.

The fans are already scrapping on the terraces.

Smith is making me feel like the miserable band the smiths with his bullshit press conferences full of flap.

He's always having a sly pop at the fans, "its a tough place to come on when we are behind at Villa Park" now he's started name calling the players. Bet they love him even more for that!

West Brom is MUST WIN

Your first sentence sums up exactly the problem. Always thinking short term, bore off. Absolute bollocks and a total over reaction. 

[villalad21]

You gotta ask questions about what the heck is going on at the training ground.

We're getting worse every single week and yet we still stick with the exact same formation and system.

[bannedfromHandV]

3 hours ago, Raver50032 said:

Me again, sorry...

You state that 3/4 of our players are off in the summer for various reasons (debatable as to which ones are trying, and which aren't).

The 'rest' are 'shite.'

You don't trust Smith with a rebuild. Just out of interest, why is that? If 3/4 of the players are off (some out of contract, some not trying because they're off and don't care?) and the others are 'shite,' what exactly were you expecting Smith to do? Just asking as you've nailed your colours to the mast and seem to have lost all faith in Smith very quickly indeed. There was never a magic wand to wave given the summer turmoil and state that the previous incumbent left the team and the squad.

I'll admit that there is precious little about the last couple of months to be really excited about and results haven't been what I was hoping for considering how well we dealt with the 'difficult' run of fixtures before Christmas. But I can't get my head round why there are people who can be 'Smith out' so quickly when the journey has barely even begun. For people criticising him for never having won anything, Bruce (FOUR - 4 promotions)... Warnock... Allardyce and Pardew all had won nothing as managers before winning their first managerial honour. Chicken and egg again. As Director Orson Krennic once said... 'you have to start somewhere...'

Given how this thread is degenerating, it won't be long before the personal insults start on Smith. That itself will be shameful given that in actuality, he is one of us. It doesn't make him a charity case, or beyond criticism... But you might just as well shit on the Holte End steps.

 

Joleon lescott was one of us, as was Micha Richards, go back further and Collymore and Hendrie were allegedly one of us, Gabby too, the list could go on. 

Not one of them did anything but disappoint ultimately, who was the last 'one of us' who actually achieved anything? 

It's ironic that the one who truly is  'one of us' is doing very well, at another club (Lolley). 

[Zatman]

2 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

In regards to Dean Smith I don’t really know what to think anymore. Don’t want to write him off but I think our current form is now the worst it’s been since we got relegated.

The pressure will only increase from here. Maybe the return of Jack can give us the boost we desperately need.

we lost 7 in 8 games at one stage under previous manager including 5 in a row 

[OutByEaster?]

I like Dean Smith. I like the cut of his jib. I like that at every football club he's been at, given a reasonable amount of time he's had them playing good football and competing a little beyond their expectations, I like that he's done those jobs on a budget. I like that he gathers good people around him and that he seems able to both dictate and to listen to others. I like that he believes in football played the right way. I think he's a very capable football manager.

I fear for him though, this run of fixtures is troublesome - and in four games time if we're trudging off the pitch at the sty, having lost against both small heath and the Albion, and struggled against Derby and Stoke - if we're in 15th or 16th place - if at that point we're still below a small heath that have had a twelve point deduction - it'll be a really difficult job to get the fans back onside, and he'll need the fans onside because next season is going to be tough, it's going to need all his nous.

I hope he's here for the long run, I think in the long run he proves he's a good manager, but I worry less about Aston Villa's future under Dean Smith if he's here in four seasons time than I do about Dean Smith's future at Aston Villa in four weeks time. If we don't win at least one of these upcoming games, then it's going to take patience and it's going to take some grit to get us through.

The next four weeks could be the toughest of his managerial career, I hope he knows that and I hope he comes through it. I like him.

 

[Vive_La_Villa]

1 minute ago, Zatman said:

we lost 7 in 8 games at one stage under previous manager including 5 in a row 

Was that around January time?  It does feel like we stuck in a rut at the moment.

[screwdriver]

1 hour ago, villabromsgrove said:

It's disappointing to read this sort of insulting post aimed at the Villa manager's family. Opinions are fine, personal abuse is not!

yeah like when you call Steve Bruce Potatoe head sang songs about darren bent and his daughter and Tim Sherwood the cockney "chancer"

but I forgot Dean smith is a villa fan so he's beyond reproach

[Reivax_Villa]

We lost to a team that DS assembled over 3 years. This team has been assembled over 6-8 months by two managers..

Watching Brentford made me realise the type of players and style we could look forward to at Villa Park.

The teams that we look to replicate all have a long term strategy and have kept faith in their manager.

We have been in this league for three seasons yet we have a section of fans that still think that we are a premier league club and looking for a quick fix..

Purslow is not stupid, we are going to build effectively and slowly and this is going to be a tough journey. 

For me, if you are not backing the manager you are not backing the club that decided to place faith in him.

As I said before, this summer is going to be interesting.

[Zatman]

6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Was that around January time?  It does feel like we stuck in a rut at the moment.

Yeah was in first season we were in this league

[Mark Albrighton]

3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said:

Was that around January time?  It does feel like we stuck in a rut at the moment.

Yeah between the 29th December and 20th February. Nine games, seven defeats, two draws.

In the spirit of fairness, if you look at the relevant thread at that time, there were plenty calling for dismissal then too.