Popular Post Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, KentVillan said: I actually find it f---ing infuriating when a team completely outplay the opposition from start to finish, don't manage to score, and the manager comes in for criticism. What more can he do? Last season, when we were struggling, we were deservedly losing games. It was very tough to watch. This season I watch almost every game and think "we're on top here", and that has to be credit to the manager. In a way I hope Birmingham stays in Tier 3 for the rest of the season, so our fans can't come in and ruin it by booing Traore or Watkins or whoever we've decided is shit this week. I genuinely believe that better finishing and we'd be 11 out of 11. We've definitely had chances in each game (that we haven't won) to win. Today highlights that we're incredibly creative this season. Dean Smith has won me over big style. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 4 hours ago, foreveryoung said: No ones saying the performance wasn't good, but if your not scoring your not winning. So we're actually agreeing to agree? Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Every game other than Leeds we've shown something season which is a massive credit to Dean and the team. Massive improvement on last season. I think we've been a bit unlucky with our points total so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 18, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: Every game other than Leeds we've shown something season which is a massive credit to Dean and the team. Massive improvement on last season. I think we've been a bit unlucky with our points total so far. A bit more clinical on the goals front we could win this league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 Win lose or draw we are actually enjoyable to watch which is credit to management and the players as been a long time coming Sadly we used up all our deflections vs Liverpool as just needed one last night 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 12 hours ago, VillaChris said: The doubt I have is I just don't think he's got that ruthless streak in final third. Probably because he doesnt get the service, we just dont provide service to our central strikers. How many chances we created for Ollie last night. Considering we had 27 shots, how many were in to Ollie. We know the guy can score, I think your assessment that he hasnt got a ruthless streak is wrong, when he has been given chances he has scored this season but we are just not a team that provides chances to our central striker over the last two seasons. As I said last night, we do the creative stuff in midfield but when we get close to the box we often have the player go on a solo run and try themselves like Jack did before he skyed it over or El Ghazi did a number of times. We dont cross into Ollie, we dont pass into Ollie, we dont slide in Ollie. Ollie either has to drop deep or he ends up being a decoy for the player with the ball. So many times I saw waiting for the pass as the other player was closing in on goal and him not receiving the ball. Was he in the right position or best position for a pass.......no, not always but there were a few I thought "pass to Ollie". I think it's hard to judge Ollie sometimes because we arent feeding him enough balls 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 If we are as good as most think, why don't we raise our expectations a little and expect Europe this season. Wolves did it Why should we take midtable as a success, after the start we had and performances we are putting out I doubt Southampton will be happy with midtable the way they have started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: If we are as good as most think, why don't we raise our expectations a little and expect Europe this season. Wolves did it Why should we take midtable as a success, after the start we had and performances we are putting out I doubt Southampton will be happy with midtable the way they have started. Soon becomes a stick to beat the manager if we don’t achieve it. There’s unfortunately some that are not convinced by Smith and never will be. Edited December 18, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Soon becomes a stick to beat the manager if we don’t achieve it. Not this season Next season i expect a top half finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rightdm00 Posted December 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2020 - Survived relegation by a point. - Spend above average but not exorbitant amount in transfers - Decent start to season finds you mid-table - Set expectations at European places 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 We've won two of the last seven, losing games to Leeds, Southampton, Brighton, West Ham and failing to beat Burnley on the way, and one of those two victories only came because of a injury time penalty. Truth is we had a good start to the season that means we're not in a worrisome position, but haven't been doing brilliantly since, nothing to suggest we will be or should be challenging for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Four points from Burnley and Wolves with injuries, europe is unlikely but if we can win the next two and with our games in hand then maybe we can make a good go of finishing top half, which will be a good achievement. All that's easier said than done though, need Watkins and Grealish to return to goal scoring form, Barkley returning should help as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: - Survived relegation by a point. - Spend above average but not exorbitant amount in transfers - Decent start to season finds you mid-table - Set expectations at European places I guess your expectations have dropped somewhat over the years. Not me, I still expect the best, we are a massive club remember, have billionaire owners and one of the best players in the league, why should we not want more than be happy with midtable mediocracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: If we are as good as most think, why don't we raise our expectations a little and expect Europe this season. Wolves did it Why should we take midtable as a success, after the start we had and performances we are putting out I doubt Southampton will be happy with midtable the way they have started. Biggest problem is our squad isn’t strong enough to cope with a couple of injuries or suspensions. We are growing nicely but generally as a team and squad we arent ready to get there for that type of lofty position 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 If you offered me 4 points out of Wolves and Burnley i would bite your hand off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: I guess your expectations have dropped somewhat over the years. Not me, I still expect the best, we are a massive club remember, have billionaire owners and one of the best players in the league, why should we not want more than be happy with midtable mediocracy. I don't doubt our place is competing for the european places along with deep cup runs. I just feel it's a bit unfair to foist that on Dean after the last decade of ineptitude. When Dean's progress stalls or our performances start showing regression then I'll worry until then Dean, in my opinion, has been turning water into wine since his appointment. Edited December 18, 2020 by Rightdm00 Spelling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Not this season Next season i expect a top half finish Like you need another stick! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 We're 4th in the table on xPTS with two games in hand. If we would have won the game yesterday, we would be in 8th place and exactly where we should be, again with two games in hand. Every team in above us in the table is overachieving, except for Chelsea and Man City. Deano has done a phenomenal job coaching the squad and setting us up for success on the pitch. This team is going places if we can continue to recruit well and invest in the right players to drive us forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: I guess your expectations have dropped somewhat over the years. Not me, I still expect the best, we are a massive club remember, have billionaire owners and one of the best players in the league, why should we not want more than be happy with midtable mediocracy. Might be a massive club (debatable) but we’re not a brilliant team. We were relegation candidates six months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, KMitch said: We're 4th in the table on xPTS with two games in hand. If we would have won the game yesterday, we would be in 8th place and exactly where we should be, again with two games in hand. Every team in above us in the table is overachieving, except for Chelsea and Man City. Deano has done a phenomenal job coaching the squad and setting us up for success on the pitch. This team is going places if we can continue to recruit well and invest in the right players to drive us forward. We should also not underestimate the potential that our new set up, with the development players, can and should produce. Keep the really good ones where possible and selling a few of the slightly lesser players will both save the club a fortune and also be self funding. We’re aiming to build a footballing culture through the club that should stand us in good stead for the future. Not only will we benefit for the young players that we’re developing, as our star rises young players will want to come and be part of our academy. The future is bright. Edited December 18, 2020 by DaveAV1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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