Popular Post AVTuco Posted May 28, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2018 I think I'm over the loss now. Things are looking more up. Actually I think Championship is a good league to be in. Even for a great club like ours. It's better to be the biggest team in Championship than a relegation favorite in Premier League. I'm looking forward to next season again. We are the biggest team in the summer transfer market with lots of action to be expected, both in and out. We may have a new manager, or not, we'll see. We'll win more than we'll lose. Quality of football is not so important to me, as long as it's Villa on the field. We'll be chasing promotion again. We have the best fans and the greatest stadium in the country. Foreign fans get to watch AVTV again. Yeah, Championship is ok by me again, at least for another year. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Nope, not for me sorry 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark Albrighton Posted May 28, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2018 It’s a more entertaining league. There are more “What the ****?!?” results in this division than the premier league (I think). There’s more football (possibly not always a good thing). We should win more games next season in this division than we would have done had we been promoted (I hope). We have the opportunity to beat Baggies AND Small Heath next season. We’ll probably be on telly more than any other side in the division (that has it’s own drawbacks admittedly). No need to watch “Match of the Day”. The squad can develop even more unity should we be promoted. But next season HAS to be the season we achieve promotion. Third time’s a charm. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted May 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2018 Its nice to win games and be challenging up the top of table than being an also-ran in the Premier League. Last 4 years in top flight were horrid knowing we were going to lose most weeks without trying with the start of Sherwood management the only exception 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 hours ago, AVTuco said: I think I'm over the loss now. Things are looking more up. Actually I think Championship is a good league to be in. Even for a great club like ours. It's better to be the biggest team in Championship than a relegation favorite in Premier League. I'm looking forward to next season again. We are the biggest team in the summer transfer market with lots of action to be expected, both in and out. We may have a new manager, or not, we'll see. We'll win more than we'll lose. Quality of football is not so important to me, as long as it's Villa on the field. We'll be chasing promotion again. We have the best fans and the greatest stadium in the country. Foreign fans get to watch AVTV again. Yeah, Championship is ok by me again, at least for another year. The big assumption is that we will still be billy big bollocks in the championship. With Grealish likley to be sold and the proceeds not going towards replacements - a bunch of forwards who continually fire blanks - who knows what the future holds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fun Factory Posted May 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 hours ago, AVTuco said: I think I'm over the loss now. Things are looking more up. Actually I think Championship is a good league to be in. Even for a great club like ours. It's better to be the biggest team in Championship than a relegation favorite in Premier League. I'm looking forward to next season again. We are the biggest team in the summer transfer market with lots of action to be expected, both in and out. We may have a new manager, or not, we'll see. We'll win more than we'll lose. Quality of football is not so important to me, as long as it's Villa on the field. We'll be chasing promotion again. We have the best fans and the greatest stadium in the country. Foreign fans get to watch AVTV again. Yeah, Championship is ok by me again, at least for another year. Really? Wow. Its a disaster for this club to be in the division for 3 straight years. We are fast becoming another sleeping giant irrelevance like Leeds, Forest, or Sheffield Wednesday. There is no chance we will be the biggest team in the market next summer- all 3 clubs who went down (including our wacky neighbours) will have far more money due to the parachute payments. It is an embarrassment that Villa got themselves in this position in the first place in getting relegated and we have now blown our best chance of getting out of this league. We have as much chance going up next season as coming mid table. For me it is going to take months to get over what happened on Saturday. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Before the game I was saying I don’t mind if we stay down. I’ve enjoyed seeing us win this year. But after the defeat, I’m still gutted and definitely don’t think it’s good staying down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted May 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2018 i think peoples opinion of the premier league will probably answer that question, we "have" to be in it, we would be just as irrelevant in that league as we are now, part of the happy to be there brigade, the scars of the mcleish through to garde years are still there for me, im not really that interested in watching similar shit football celebrating there being 3 shitter teams than us every year, rolling over and having our bellies tickled to "big" teams and being a feeder club to a champions league bench i want us to play good attacking football with young exciting kids and challenge for stuff, theres only one league thats happening in (but at the same time without trying to make this another bruce thread i dont want frustrating shit football in the championship either) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifamad Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Shropshire Lad said: We have the opportunity to beat Baggies AND Small Heath next season. But will we beat them that’s the question, we will be losing Snodgrass, Grabban, Terry, Onomah, Johnston for sure and possibly more of our better players, this was the season we had to go up SHA had all their manager Mary go round so we played them at good timings these last two seasons, they seem to have found a good manager now and will be tougher to pin down as for the baggies they will have the parachute payments and have a better squad than us already, we are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Sorry, but the thread title is utter nonsense. You are stretching to find someway to feel better. The championship is utter devastation for Villa. Lower quality players, lower quality opposition, lower quality facilities, lower quality of play. Everything is lesser and lower. ZERO opportunity to build a fanbase anywhere but Birmingham means lower resources and growth for the club. I find it hard to believe that anyone can seriously consider this good. You can placate yourself with rationalizations to make it less poisonous, but the economic loss to the club is crippling. 170 million this year and ditto a similar number for every year we stay down. Im just going to avoid this thread, the entire premise is a delusion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted May 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: Sorry, but the thread title is utter nonsense. You are stretching to find someway to feel better. The championship is utter devastation for Villa. Lower quality players, lower quality opposition, lower quality facilities, lower quality of play. Everything is lesser and lower. ZERO opportunity to build a fanbase anywhere but Birmingham means lower resources and growth for the club. I find it hard to believe that anyone can seriously consider this good. You can placate yourself with rationalizations to make it less poisonous, but the economic loss to the club is crippling. 170 million this year and ditto a similar number for every year we stay down. Im just going to avoid this thread, the entire premise is a delusion. Nah, I don't agree with this. I want to watch football, not balance sheets. Last year, we won more than we did for years and years. I went to nearly every home game, with the belief that we might win it. If we'd gone up, I wouldn't have gone much next season. People watch football for different reasons. I understand yours, but they aren't the same as mine. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Meh, rather be wining games and challenging at the top end of the championship than fighting relegation year in year out in the PL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted May 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2018 It really really isn't. It’s humiliating that we are still in the Championship. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skills Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 it is embarrassing that we are in this division, but I know where you're coming from, I enjoy having the expectation of winning in every match we play and love celebrating a win... we wouldn't get that much in the PL but id still rather be there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: Nah, I don't agree with this. I want to watch football, not balance sheets. Last year, we won more than we did for years and years. I went to nearly every home game, with the belief that we might win it. If we'd gone up, I wouldn't have gone much next season. People watch football for different reasons. I understand yours, but they aren't the same as mine. So, a LOCAL fan that can go to every match is not terribly inconvenienced (in the short term) by this long term economic bomb in the functional and operational foundation of the club.... hardly disproves my points. How many new supporters will we develop around the globe while we are in this second rate league? Oh, but go ahead enjoy your day out (I’m serious, not sarcastic) enjoy those days and I hope you see a LOT of wins. But don’t pretend that it’s not a huge loss to the club or to supporters too distant to travel to every match..... Unless you can make up the 170 million we just lost. If you can, please contact tony about sponsoring a kit or anything else you fancy. ( and you can send me a few as well.). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: So, a LOCAL fan that can go to every match is not terribly inconvenienced (in the short term) by this long term economic bomb in the functional and operational foundation of the club.... hardly disproves my points. How many new supporters will we develop around the globe while we are in this second rate league? Oh, but go ahead enjoy your day out (I’m serious, not sarcastic) enjoy those days and I hope you see a LOT of wins. But don’t pretend that it’s not a huge loss to the club or to supporters too distant to travel to every match..... Unless you can make up the 170 million we just lost. If you can, please contact tony about sponsoring a kit or anything else you fancy. ( and you can send me a few as well.). I understand your annoyance, and having lived for many years outside the UK myself I know how annoying it can be when you want to watch a match and you can't, because you can't get to the ground and there's no streams or whatever. But ultimately, 'building an overseas support base' and 'getting PL millions' are merely useful tools for getting to the desired end-state, which is seeing the football team I support win. They're the means, not the goal. And to be honest, the financial stuff is exhausting and endless. You worry about the millions lost out on this year, and you'll be worrying about the millions at risk next year, and if we'd gone up, and we'd finished in or near the relegation zone (which we clearly would have done) you'd have spent all year worrying about the money at risk then too. Arsenal fans worry about the money they are missing out on by not being in the top 4. It's endless. My enjoyment comes from football, not stressing about balance sheets. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I enjoy the championship, the reason, it’s competitive. Which, for me, is what makes football exciting. Whilst I see the attraction of the premier league it is little more than a West End musical with a few teams playing the lead roles and everyone else nothing more than a chorus girl. I don’t really believe all the talk (hype?) about how the quality of the PL is so much better than the championship is either. If you were to cut the top 6 of the pl loose and replace them with the top 6 of the championship who wins that league next season? Over half, if not all, would think they’ve at least got a chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Did any of us really think that before Saturday's result? If so, I wasn't one of them. I have experienced years out of the top flight in the late 60s/early 70s with Villa and enjoyed the ride back to Division 1 but there were times when promotion had looked a long way off and I longed to be back among the big hitters. Every season that we spend outside the top flight now increases the risk that we will become another Forest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 29, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 29, 2018 To clarify my view, I don’t want us to be in the Championship. Sadly, it’s better for us to finish 17th in the premier league, than 4th in the championship. But here we find ourselves. However, if people want to take a moment to look on the bright side, deluded or otherwise, I’m not going to begrudge anyone from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 It is what it is, no point stressing about it. Last season was good fun, lets hope the new one is even better. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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