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  1. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    I didn’t answer the question... only because I wasn’t sure if people were genuinely suggesting that an uneducated person’s vote should count less than those that are or whether this thread is just an opportunity to sneer at the uneducated?
  2. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    Is it arguable? Which was the year Labour would have won election without the working class vote?
  3. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    Thanks for the clarification to help my understanding. I thought I’d made a point about what was required for Labour to win an election and you’d answered it by quoting stats from an election they lost.
  4. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    So those with a degree; Conservative 36% Labour 28% Liberal 19% What’s your point? Same question, eradicate those with a below average education, would Labour have ever won a general election?
  5. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    If only those with above average intelligence were allowed to vote. Would there ever have been a Labour government in British history?
  6. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    I think you may have stumbled upon something there that would have such far reaching consequences, it would make Brexit seem nothing more than a triviality!
  7. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Dean Smith

    Too hard to resist this blast from past!
  8. WhatAboutTheFinish

    New Manager Speculation

    In my hand I’ve got an envelope. And in that envelope I’ve written the name of one manager who isn’t going to let us down. Now I’m going to open that envelope at the end of the season. Are you the manager that isn’t going to let us down?
  9. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    I agree that they are closely linked although there does seem to be a shift today whereby trade deals seem to have become the be all and end all of political debate in the UK To me, this seems a bit strange. I can honestly say that I don’t think I have ever heard anyone ever say ‘I’m a staunch Labour voter because I believe they are going to sign a whole bunch of lucrative international trade deals’. You know those things they usually bring out before elections where they get people to rank the importance of issues in deciding their vote...Health, Education, Tax etc? I’d love to see those stats for the last 50 years and see where International Trade ranks on those too.
  10. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    For me a Corbyn vision vs a May vision vs a Cable vision probably equals a spoiled ballot paper. I’m not sure the overall future of the UK has to be a binary choice between an EU or a US model, maybe there is another way, a third way if you will.
  11. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    There’s a lot of variables. Clearly he’s not an obvious selection for me but who knows, he might be able to win me over?
  12. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    I’m an EU resident so probably won’t get the chance
  13. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    I thinks that’s because the fundamental reasons people voted for brexit haven’t changed, despite all the new reports, since page one. Heres an old school explaination... Or as the Leader of the Opposition would put it...
  14. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    Well I appreciate the link to your source, it becomes easier for me to see where any misunderstanding has arisen. Far be it from me to criticise Barry Turner so I’m just going to throw out a few questions and then if people want they can look things up and make their own minds up on the accuracy of his bio. What year and where was the Student Comittee of Solidarity movement started? What were the reasons for its establishment? In what year, where and what were the reasons for the trade union Solidarity being established? Other than both organisations containing the word Solidarity in their name, were the two organisations linked? What year did Donald Tusk graduate? Having asked those questions, I reiterate that I think Donald Tusk is a good politician and I like him. I mentioned the fact I had lived in Poland not as a means of pulling rank on history knowledge but in an attempt to say that I had first hand experience of how good a politician he was.
  15. WhatAboutTheFinish

    Should I stay or should I go now - U.K. in/out of the EU (contd.)

    No he didn’t help start the Student Comittee of the Solidarity Movement. That’s a complete falsehood, not semantics. That movement was started by friends and followers of Stanislaw Pyjas in Krakow, hundreds of miles away from Gdansk and months before Donald Tusk had ever heard of the notion. He joined an existing sub branch of a student body. If Jeremy Corbyn joined the communist party at North London Polytechnic you wouldn’t claim he was the successor to Stalin...it’s ridiculous!