srsmithusa Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: If he was called Robert Martin he would be managing a lower club. Talks a great game and has an exotic name utter drivel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Anyway, what's happened to Fonseca and Wenger? Smart ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, privateer said: Is that an ITK hint? Martinez DOF, Henry and Terry coaching staff and, with the Belgium connection and leverage, Eden Hazard coming in January? I like it. Fun and jokes aside. That wouldn't be half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: utter drivel relegated Wigan, another season at Everton and he probably would have done the same. 2 wins in his last 15 and 1 was vs our relegated team spent 23 million that season on Oumar Niasse and Funes Mori Edited October 8, 2018 by Zatman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Guardiola, Zidane, Conte, Ancelloti, Deschamp, Simeone, Capello, Rijkaard, Daglish, Beckenbauer, Del Bosque, Trapattoni, Cryuff. Yes im sure you can list many top players that failed as managers. But then I could also list many ordinary players that failed as managers too. Top player does not equal poor manager and it’s a pretty simplistic way of thinking to suggest it does in my opinion. I do agree with your last sentence though based on the fact he has zero experience. Being a top player has nothing to do with it. I was responding to someone who said he was a great player and insinuating that that would make him a top manager. Edited October 8, 2018 by One For The Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Faith is believing in something without sufficient evidence. I don't have faith in anything. I have beliefs based on the available evidence. In the absence of any evidence to suggest Henry will make a good manager, I would rather hire someone who has proven himself. Not one of the old school merry go round types, but someone who has done a good job somewhere and has some fresh ideas. I'd like to see Smith or Rodgers given the job. You may not have any evidence, because like the rest of us we are not privy to the type of info the club’s decision makers will have. And even with that level of information there is still room and perhaps even need for some faith. There are few certainties in life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Zatman said: relegated Wigan, another season at Everton and he probably would have done the same. 2 wins in his last 15 and 1 was vs our relegated team now if that had been your post I wouldn't have responded the way I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: relegated Wigan, another season at Everton and he probably would have done the same. 2 wins in his last 15 and 1 was vs our relegated team spent 23 million that season on Oumar Niasse and Funes Mori And yet Henry is only his assistant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, One For The Road said: I was responding to someone who said he was a great player and insinuating that that would make him a top manager. Fair enough. I didn’t see that so apology's for directing my post at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: frank rijkaard was a pretty crap manager with a great Barcelona squad in front of him you're not allowed to say that! that works with the argument that pep is actually a good manager who had to do something at barca....cant have that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: relegated Wigan, another season at Everton and he probably would have done the same. 2 wins in his last 15 and 1 was vs our relegated team Yet he will go down in Wigan history as the hero that won them the FA cup. it’s a funny old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: You may not have any evidence, because like the rest of us we are not privy to the type of info the club’s decision makers will have. And even with that level of information there is still room and perhaps even need for some faith. There are few certainties in life. Faith is the excuse people give for believing in things without evidence. There is never a need for that in my view. And especially not when we are in the situation we are in. We need solid decisions based on cold hard facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Roberto "420 no defence" Martinez No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hooter Posted October 8, 2018 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRO said: I liked Steve Bruce as you know, but his persona is like a gun fighter that has met too many on the trail, from town to town another fight another battle scar, another bullet clipping this ear...….I want Billy the Kid, fresh from his youth to take on the world. Shot dead aged 21. Not really a long term plan that... Edited October 8, 2018 by hooter 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I think we are negiotating with TH and our bargaining chip with the belguim fa is "give us TH or else we will come for youre manager" !!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted October 8, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, hippo said: "give us TH or else we will come for youre manager" !!!!! This would be too much for Kenneth Williams! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockport_Villain Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Roberto "420 no defence" Martinez No thanks Why on earth not......perfect for us as we don’t have a defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Yeah let's recruit a manager like Martinez to sort out the defence who specialises in shambolic defensive teams. There is no way he will get the job in my opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Martinez is a lousy manager, took Wigan down, was shite at Everton and mismanaged the best team in the Euro's to a third place finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Wasn’t it Martinez who was in charge for the 9-1 or 9-0 drubbing at Spurs? I could see him replicating that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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