mjmooney Posted June 21, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, MakemineVanilla said: Doesn't the continued popularity of the classic film A Matter of Life and Death demonstrate that even though most people don't believe in an afterlife, that the yearning still persist in the form of an unconscious wish fulfillment? It demonstrates that it's a great film. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think we can all agree that reincarnation is making a comeback. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Thought this thread was about the Biggie album. Disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Or invalid Exactly. The way you do this is to put both beliefs to the test and see which one holds up. Do you think your belief in an afterlife passes any meaningful examination ? Is it based upon evidence or is it based upon a need to believe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 26 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Thought this thread was about the Biggie album. Disappointed. Get out of here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Exactly. The way you do this is to put both beliefs to the test and see which one holds up. Do you think your belief in an afterlife passes any meaningful examination ? Is it based upon evidence or is it based upon a need to believe ? Ive never said evidence. If you look at my posts i have aleays maintained no of us really know. We are speculating with what we believe in God would probably come down and show evidence of what happened and yet people wokld prpbably still question it. If i saw the factual evidence to prove its a made up story then that would be of interest to me. The reality is none of us know for certain. I personally feel better about myself believing ill eee my lovrd ones again in hopefully another world/life/realm whatever you want to label it! Id much prefer that then just not believing in anything.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: God would probably come down and show evidence of what happened and yet people wokld prpbably still question it. Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Ive never said evidence. If you look at my posts i have aleays maintained no of us really know. We are speculating with what we believe in God would probably come down and show evidence of what happened and yet people wokld prpbably still question it. If i saw the factual evidence to prove its a made up story then that would be of interest to me. The reality is none of us know for certain. I personally feel better about myself believing ill eee my lovrd ones again in hopefully another world/life/realm whatever you want to label it! Id much prefer that then just not believing in anything.. The thought of an afterlife is pretty normal thinking for a lot of us mate. Whatever my reasons for believing I'm glad I do believe in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Brumerican said: Or is there a cut off point ? I hope it's before the T Rex. Big Bolan fan? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Who gives a shit. Edited June 22, 2017 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) I really want to believe, as the concept of just 'nothingness' either pre or post life absolutely terrifies me beyond the capacity for rational thought. (Ghostbusters quote in afterlife thread fnar fnar). But I don't believe in it as when you stop and think about it its just all silly. No more real than the easter bunny. I wish I had faith or spiritualism as the world would be a bit easier to get by in but I'm a cold, heartless cynic without the burden of proof. The good news is we will all find out in the end. Just hope the afterlife has on off topic lounge so we can all discuss it again. Edited June 22, 2017 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted June 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: I really want to believe, as the concept of just 'nothingness' either pre or post life absolutely terrifies me beyond the capacity for rational thought. (Ghostbusters quote in afterlife thread fnar fnar). But I don't believe in it as when you stop and think about it its just all silly. No more real than the easter bunny. I wish I had faith or spiritualism as the world would be a bit easier to get by in but I'm a cold, heartless cynic without the burden of proof. The good news is we will all find out in the end. Just hope the afterlife has on off topic lounge so we can all discuss it again. Nah... if there is a heaven an hell then non of us lot will be in off topic we will be off to the hell of the main board for eternity...... shudder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 14 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Er Adam and Eve I'd imagine.... The last thing I want to re-unite with is my ex wife. That ship has sailed. xxxx her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Ingram85 said: I really want to believe, as the concept of just 'nothingness' either pre or post life absolutely terrifies me beyond the capacity for rational thought. But why should it terrify you? You won't actually be experiencing anything (bad or otherwise). Nothingness isn't heaven, but it certainly isn't hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 11 hours ago, chrisp65 said: I think we can all agree that reincarnation is making a comeback. I'm having "Be Right Back" on my tombstone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted June 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: Nothingness isn't heaven I beg to differ - I have proof. The scripture of a Mr D. Byrne says Heaven is a place, a place where nothing, nothing ever happens There is a party, everyone is there, everyone will leave at exactly the same time It's hard to imagine that nothing at all could be so exciting could be this much fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: But why should it terrify you? You won't actually be experiencing anything (bad or otherwise). Nothingness isn't heaven, but it certainly isn't hell. Wby would not want a afterlife? If you could be reunited with your loved ones wouldn't we all want that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Wby would not want a afterlife? If you could be reunited with your loved ones wouldn't we all want that? Hes not saying he doesnt want an afterlife, just saying you shouldnt be terrified of nothing, as you wont even know about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Wby would not want a afterlife? If you could be reunited with your loved ones wouldn't we all want that? Not particularly no . If everyone reunited with their loved ones there would be a colossal chain of reunions all the way back thorough the tree of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Not particularly no . If everyone reunited with their loved ones there would be a colossal chain of reunions all the way back thorough the tree of life. What happens if you meet up with your loved ones but then they do something horrible to you? Do you have to stay with them for eternity then? Or do you have to commit suicide and die for a second time and hope they didn't turn up in your second afterlife? The whole idea of an afterlife is ridiculous. Edited June 22, 2017 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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