villa4europe Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 She will "fail" No knowledge of her ability, don't need any, our media, social media and then more importantly Chelsea's rotten set up would have her thrown under the bus before she's even given a chance to show what she's about, player won't perform and it will be seen as her fault, loads of daft shite about her being a woman when in reality it will be the male footballers who are too precious and want pampering before they do their job for her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 On 18/05/2019 at 14:24, Zatman said: Luckily stats mean **** all when you watch with own eyes I'll remember that when you bleat on about Pep's spending 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: I'm enjoying how much anger and hatred this is bringing out of a certain portion of football fans. Can't see it happening any time soon, but I don't see why it'd be such an outrageous thing in principle. At the same time, it will only hurt the women's game if they lose their best coaches to men's football teams. Edited May 19, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: At the same time, it will only hurt the women's game if they lose their best coaches to men's football teams. Or the opposite, some coaches might start working in the womens game if they feel they can get a chance at a big job which could improve standards and not feel its a step down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I think eventually in non league/league 2 we'll get a female appointment. Plenty of females on boards of clubs now (Everton have female CEO) so think lower down it's a matter of time. No chance it's happening in the premier league anytime soon and certainly not at Chelsea regardless of how well she's done on the female team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Or the opposite, some coaches might start working in the womens game if they feel they can get a chance at a big job which could improve standards and not feel its a step down Already happening already. Neil Redfern managed a few league clubs and he joined Liverpool ladies although only lasted a few weeks there, can't remember the reason he quit. Phil Neville aswell of course managing the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Already happening already. Neil Redfern managed a few league clubs and he joined Liverpool ladies although only lasted a few weeks there, can't remember the reason he quit. Phil Neville aswell of course managing the national team. I think the guy who was managing England before was getting linked to some Championship clubs before the scandal erupted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Zatman said: Or the opposite, some coaches might start working in the womens game if they feel they can get a chance at a big job which could improve standards and not feel its a step down I think the best solution would be for female coaches to start in the lower leagues and work their way up since they don't have any experience at the highest level. Not bashing women football, but it's a whole different ballgame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 10 hours ago, villalad21 said: I think the best solution would be for female coaches to start in the lower leagues and work their way up since they don't have any experience at the highest level. Not bashing women football, but it's a whole different ballgame. Is it? How so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Is it? How so? Figure of speech i guess. But for one thing men are not allowed to play women's football and women although I think it has happened on some occasion are not allowed to play men's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Is it? How so? It's a different level. Doing well for the Chelsea women team does not make you qualified for a top job in Premier League, it just doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Is it? How so? A woman form women's football has as much right as Dwight Yorke has at getting a Premier league job. I agree should start in lower leagues. Just becauee sh ejs a woman she shouldn't be getting ahead of people like Chris Wilder Dean Smith etc with big Premier league clubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 56 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's a different level. Doing well for the Chelsea women team does not make you qualified for a top job in Premier League, it just doesn't. What level is it comparable to, in your opinion? I'm asking because I'm genuinely not sure. I do wonder though, if Chelsea were looking at promoting a man from within, proven at youth level for example, whether people would be applauding it rather than questioning it. Or worse in some cases. I'd imagine the championship would be a step up and she should go looking for and hopefully be given an opportunity there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: What level is it comparable to, in your opinion? I'm asking because I'm genuinely not sure. I do wonder though, if Chelsea were looking at promoting a man from within, proven at youth level for example, whether people would be applauding it rather than questioning it. Or worse in some cases. I'd imagine the championship would be a step up and she should go looking for and hopefully be given an opportunity there? It's not un common for the best women's national teams to practice against 14 year old boy teams and they generally play even with them and on occasion lose. So with evidence that is where their level probably is at. Some people might not want to hear that, but as far as i know that is just facts. You say Championship, i was more thinking of the conference league and working her way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's not un common for the best women's national teams to practice against 14 year old boy teams and they generally play even with them and on occasion lose. Really?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 19/05/2019 at 11:34, VillaAlex said: I think modern day football doesn't suit it any more if anything. Martin O'Neill is another who suffers with this. These managers need to evolve their ideas, what worked 5-10 years ago doesn't work now. Completely this. Football has moved on, these managers haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Really?! Yes, it's a good level for them to practice for a tournament. It's nothing to laugh at, women and men are build different and it's unfair to compare them to eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Really?! The Swedish national side played against a reserve AIK's boys 17 (mostly made up of 15 and 16 y.o's) ahead of the last WC (or some other championship) and lost 3-0 in a 2x30 minutes game. They then played and won 1-0 against the boys 19 side from Norrtälje (4th division). They were ranked 5th in the world at the time. No doubt the games has evolved since I played but our rather average boys 15 side easily beat the women side that were playing in the Swedish top division at the time (BK Kenty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, PieFacE said: Completely this. Football has moved on, these managers haven't. I don't know. Boro were in thre top 6 for the majority of the season. They missed out because of a poor run at the end of the season. There's many ways to win a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I don't know. Boro were in thre top 6 for the majority of the season. They missed out because of a poor run at the end of the season. There's many ways to win a football game. But, there's a reason why a lot of these managers, Bruce, O'Neil, Pulis etc have gone from managing midtable teams in the Premier League, to becoming "Relegation Experts", to dropping down a division and becoming "Promotion Experts", soon they will be "Stability Specialists" in the Championship. All of the above comes from failure. Edited May 20, 2019 by PieFacE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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