TRO Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Maybe... But Mo Salah apparently wasn't good enough for Chelsea either. You can add players which have left us after being deemed "absolute shite" on here who have gone on to other clubs to be successful. I feel there is at the very least SOME merit to this. And Benteke was not good enough for Liverpool...some make it,some don't. glad its not my money. Edited May 6, 2018 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Maybe... But Mo Salah apparently wasn't "good enough" for Chelsea either. You can add players which have left us after being deemed "absolute shite" on here who have gone on to other clubs to be successful. (For more realistic comparison). Benteke left here and has still never been the same as he was here. I feel there is at the very least SOME merit to this. (Styles of play and positions can make or break players) You have a point. But in this case, Hogan is just shit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, Alakagom said: Expensive Weimann Na weimann actually scored goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Sorry but Weiman was awful for the most part. Hogan has flopped big time and it is time for him to go elsewear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Na weimann actually scored goals. Weimann 33 league goals in 8 years. 225 games Hogan 44 league goals in 5 years, 100 games 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Weimann 33 league goals in 8 years. 225 games Hogan 44 league goals in 5 years, 100 games How many of those games for weimann were in the prem? How many of those games for Hogan were in league 2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DCJonah said: How many of those games for weimann were in the prem? How many of those games for Hogan were in league 2? I was about to say that and he was a lot younger when he started with us Edited May 7, 2018 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Also Weimann often played wide while Hogan always plays through the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted May 7, 2018 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2018 The fact that we're trying to decide if Hogan is better or worse than Andi Weimann says a lot. 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 07/05/2018 at 09:18, Stevo985 said: The fact that we're trying to decide if Hogan is better or worse than Andi Weimann says a lot. Weimann is a decent player at this level. It’s a shame about Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Weimann is/was absolute garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 He's still scored some cracking goals for me. I think the move was too big for him. I'd like to keep him and let him settle some more. If it comes to us needing the cash then we'd have to get rid im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, villan_007 said: He's still scored some cracking goals for me. I think the move was too big for him. I'd like to keep him and let him settle some more. If it comes to us needing the cash then we'd have to get rid im afraid. He's been here for a season and a half, scored about two goals having cost a bomb (presumably in wages too) and people want to keep him?! He's the first player we need to get rid of whatever league we're in. He's awful—if we sold him we'd be no worse off. We'd not even need to replace him as he does nothing. I've said it before but at least Davis has an impact on the game, bringing other players into play and holding the ball up well. Consequently, the fact that Bruce has put Hogan higher in the pecking order than Davis is one thing I really don't agree with—it just seems as if he's trying to save face with such a terrible terrible signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 10 hours ago, praisedmambo said: He's been here for a season and a half, scored about two goals having cost a bomb (presumably in wages too) and people want to keep him?! He's the first player we need to get rid of whatever league we're in. He's awful—if we sold him we'd be no worse off. We'd not even need to replace him as he does nothing. I've said it before but at least Davis has an impact on the game, bringing other players into play and holding the ball up well. Consequently, the fact that Bruce has put Hogan higher in the pecking order than Davis is one thing I really don't agree with—it just seems as if he's trying to save face with such a terrible terrible signing. Which ties in with what I have said all along - Bruce is every bit as culpable as Hogan for the shortcomings of this transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, Dave J said: Which ties in with what I have said all along - Bruce is every bit as culpable as Hogan for the shortcomings of this transfer. That's what everyone else has been saying too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: That's what everyone else has been saying too. Have they? You could have fooled me to be honest with you - it seems to me it's everyone's fault bar Bruce's - which I find incredulous at very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave J said: Which ties in with what I have said all along - Bruce is every bit as culpable as Hogan for the shortcomings of this transfer. Yes because he signed a s**t player. Of course he is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dave J said: Have they? You could have fooled me to be honest with you - it seems to me it's everyone's fault bar Bruce's - which I find incredulous at very least. Literally nobody has said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Literally nobody has said that. 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Literally nobody has said that. Ok - happy to leave this with you - you know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 10, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2018 46 minutes ago, Dave J said: Ok - happy to leave this with you - you know best. It’s just weird that you keep coming into this thread and inventing an argument that nobody is making. Its like you’re desperate to have a debate that isn’t there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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