dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 "So who do you think we should take off here Steve? Grealish? Hourihane?" "Lansbury..." "Haha no come on Steve, who?" "Yeah that lad wearing number 5" "Are you sure boss?" "Yes" "..." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted February 14, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2017 No post match press from Bruce? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Comparing Steve Bruce to Ron Saunders, blimey. This thread has finally jumped off the deep end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midian Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: No post match press from Bruce? He did AVFC 1 on facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: "So who do you think we should take off here Steve? Grealish? Hourihane?" "Lansbury..." "Haha no come on Steve, who?" "Yeah that lad wearing number 5" "Are you sure boss?" "Yes" "..." I was genuinely shocked when he took off Lansbury, how Hourihane survived the full 90 I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: No post match press from Bruce? He said back to basics And batten down the hatches. So in other words complete bollox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 "We have to batten down the hatches" Is this the Bruce version of "we go again"? Used it again today in the post game interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 29 minutes ago, Zatman said: i dont know, i said it was a terrible appointment at the time Yeah but you think Sherwood is the second coming, and hate MON who has done well with Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Morley_crosses_to_Withe said: You can't start out with that bolded sentence and then allow your heart to bleed for Xia. His choice was RDM; and with the appointment of Bruce, neither he or his advisers foresaw what you stated right there in your first sentence. You saw it from the outset, as did others, so why in their collective football wisdom didn't they!? I'm sorry, but it's their job to get those decisions right and between them, they have massively **** up. The board has overseen two totally awful managerial appointments in less than six months. Xia has either chosen badly himself or picked a bunch of short sighted clowns to advise him, but either way, the buck stops with him. I agree that his advisors have let him down and he needs to replace them. I can't blame him - I doubt he knows the first thing about football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I thought about this earlier tonight. The level of our recent managerial appointments has declined one stage at a time. Hate to keep going back to them but Newcastle appointed Rafa knowing they were already down. We've appointed poor manager after poor manager and nothing will change until villas top level management stop dicking around and lay the foundations for their project ala man city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, villa89 said: Honestly I fail to see what else it could be. It's not the atmosphere at the ground or around the club. It's not the structures at board level or the transfers that we've made or the training facilities. For me it has to be the managers fault. Just like it was Di Matteo's and Sherwoods fault when we were underperforming under them, it's Bruce's fault now. He'll get time to show us if he's good enough to get us out of it but I have seen nothing to suggest he is, which is disappointing. That is not my point....how many do we get through to find the right one. it was only a few weeks ago he managed 8 wins....was he good enough then? The performances were not there, so they went out and bought players that we were all pleased with....instead of going forward, we have gone backwards. I am no more certain he is the right manager as others are he is the wrong manager. but something has gone drastically wrong.....He takes the glorywhen it goes right, he has to take the flak. but ask yourself this.....do you want him sacked or do you just want the team to win....it may not be quite the same. There are no guarantee's a new manager will correct this in 20 games. Edited February 14, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Quote A frustrated Bruce said: “The reason why we’ve got one of the biggest wage bills in the division is to deal with the mentality and expectation at this club. “That’s why the players get paid more than anyone else in this division to handle the expectation. “The crowd have been nothing short of magnificent in the last two games when it has been difficult for them, too. “Some of the stuff has been difficult for them to watch as we have been making mistake after mistake. “We haven’t been good enough for the last five weeks and it’s difficult for me to face it. “But I’m determined to get it right and now is where we must show some balls.” https://tinyurl.com/gtaa28c A small piece of what he said. Edited February 14, 2017 by villianusa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, TRO said: But you wasn't so convinced or vociferous after 12 games when he had a 41% win ratio, was you....its only since this dreadful run has materialised that your confidence in not wanting Bruce had grown As you well know TRO I was against Bruce from the off and have consistently said he was the wrong appointment throughout although I must admit that I didn't imagine he would be as bad as he has been. Of course I've no way of knowing for sure if Wagner would be more successful but his record with scant resources at Huddersfield suggest he would be doing far far better than Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Comparing Steve Bruce to Ron Saunders, blimey. This thread has finally jumped off the deep end. Dave, come on I know it's a depressing night, but that is not what was being said and you know it....it was a cheap shot at humour. I was not comparing Steve Bruce with Ron Saunders. I was merely pointing out how folk can be wise after the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonaidan Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Surely thats the end of Bruce. No real excuse for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJT123 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Like a few or our appointments we've made in recent years, i certainly wasn't against Bruce being named manager. He was the logical choice, a great record in this division. If he can't get us winning games then I don't know who can. Where do we go from here? I'm not envious of Dr Tony's position. Truly baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 https://tinyurl.com/gm6avw2 A good listen - A little way down the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, dubbs said: I thought about this earlier tonight. The level of our recent managerial appointments has declined one stage at a time. Hate to keep going back to them but Newcastle appointed Rafa knowing they were already down. We've appointed poor manager after poor manager and nothing will change until villas top level management stop dicking around and lay the foundations for their project ala man city. Yeah, I bet Mancini's been begging Xia to sign him up. Championship is a different World. Newcastle got Rafa because they were Premier League and he thought he could keep them up, but he had a disaster of a start and they went down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 "It aint good enough" "We had chances didn't take them" The bloke is a broken record. "We go again" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted February 14, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, TRO said: That is not my point....how many do we get through to find the right one. it was only a few weeks ago he managed 8 wins....was he good enough then? The performances were not there, so they went out and bought players that we were all pleased with....instead of going forward, we have gone backwards. I am no more certain he is the right manager as others are he is the wrong manager. but something has gone drastically wrong.....He takes the glorywhen it goes right, he has to take the flak. but ask yourself this.....do you want him sacked or do you just want the team to win....it may not be quite the same. There are no guarantee's a new manager will correct this in 20 games. Losing 0-1 at home to Ipswich Losing 1-3 at home to Barnsley One point from a possible 21 in 2017 tells me SB is totally the WRONG manager 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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