Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted December 23, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2017 Steve, I've done my best to back you up in this thread. In the face of fierce (and often accurate) criticism, I've presented a balanced view. I've shown evidence of our progress, whilst also acknowledging that what we were seeing wasn't good enough and that there was better to come. Well tonight, as with the last couple of games, I've got nothing to say. You've left me without a leg to stand on, again. It feels like, whilst your CV is admirable, the game has moved on. Like Martin O'Neill, and Paul Lambert, there's a limit to where your skills can take a team. It used to be the lower reaches of the Premier League. We knew that, and it was ok. At least that was better than where we were. We could build from there. But football has moved on, and you haven't. The ceiling for your abilities is now lower because so many others have improved. The standard of football across the Championship has improved, and yours hasn't changed. You talked of wanting to build a base. Results build confidence, and confidence builds good football. But it hasn't. Results built false hope, and injuries stripped away the results. Steve, I know you're not getting sacked any time soon. So Steve Agnew becomes your last throw of the dice. He's, by all accounts, a very good coach. For this level we have a very good set of players. We're missing a striker, and a reserve central defender. And a reserve left back. But nonetheless, we ought to be playing teams off the park. Not every team, every week, but at least fairly often. So for me, not so much a fan as a pragmatist, you're in last chance saloon. Something's got to give, and sadly I don't feel like you're the man to give it. Prove me wrong. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It's not just Bruce. The whole setup is a joke. This ! The emperor has no clothes Edited December 23, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, terrytini said: My first names are Terry John..... And so it is written..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: It's not just Bruce. The whole setup is a joke. Ya know what? I agree. It’s pretty much what I said last February. But the club, and too many fans, accept half-arsed as the best we can do considering...... (fill in the blank) It’s a mindset at the club and it’s been our downfall since late Lambert days. And it’s why “nobody” is held accountable. (Except maybe RDM.... frankly, the board probably owes RDM an apology for dumping him and then tolerating and excusing everything since) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: This is the problem. The individuals errors are just red herrings. Had we won today it still doesn't change the fact we are a shit footballing team. Just sack Bruce and start again. When fans at home are booing their own team for keeping possession there is time for big changes. I don't think I've ever seen that happen at a ground in my life. In my opinion there wasn't really any booing of the team , the booing was aimed at the linesman and the ref who pretty much just guessed at everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassyNoel Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 It seemed to me we were booing the hoof balls. I might be wrong though, it’s been known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, mattyvilla said: In my opinion there wasn't really any booing of the team , the booing was aimed at the linesman and the ref who pretty much just guessed at everything No question for me the booing was at the team going backwards instead of trying to go forward and several times too . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Definiately booing a 40 yard backpass from whelan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just now, GrassyNoel said: It seemed to me we were booing the hoof balls. I might be wrong though, it’s been known. I acknowledge that things become a little more desperate with 20 minutes left when you are chasing a goal, but the tactics were horrific. He starts with a big target man and sets up to play football through Grealish, he then brings on Gabby and Hogan, moves Grealish to the left and starts lumping it forward. The bloke is absolutely clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 my bad then peeps , in the corner of the holte by the trinity it seemed to be aimed at the officials , in my opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Bruce's Villa are proving time and again that we cannot beat the better teams in this league. Beating the lower teams only will not gain you promotion - we have to beat those above and around us otherwise we are stuck in this league for one more season, at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, mattyvilla said: my bad then peeps , in the corner of the holte by the trinity it seemed to be aimed at the officials , in my opinion of course The officials did get some booing too at Times but the tactics and failure to go forward were by far the most occasions for booing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Brentford are going to make a mockery of us and outpass us again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, villarocker said: Bruce's Villa are proving time and again that we cannot beat the better teams in this league. Beating the lower teams only will not gain you promotion - we have to beat those above and around us otherwise we are stuck in this league for one more season, at least! I think it will be a much weaker team next season and there will be major cutbacks to fall in with ffp - we will have to go down the Leeds route with a lot of kids in the team . no promotion this season could mean a long while before we challenge for it again Edited December 23, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) GET GARY MONK IN NOWWW...he's available btw Edited December 23, 2017 by supermon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Brentford are going to make a mockery of us and outpass us again I’ve already written off the Brentford and boro games - we are a very weak side mentally without terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2017 If we're going to blame anyone then it should be the ones that selected Bruce as the manager. If we ask the same people to pick another manager then it will be a similar selection . Tried and tested , possible old school type manager from the established premier league/ championship manager pool, Pulis, Moyes, Pardue. They may take a bit of a risk and pick a Terry or Neville type manager, ex high profile player . We need a forward thinking board who will explore options outside of the established names. And do due diligence on them and any players they want to sign or sell. Even if we go up through the play offs there is no way Bruce is capable of keeping us in the premier league with his tactics and the type of players he would want to buy. Our issues stem from a lack of knowledge at the very top of the club and have been for years, Lerner, Xia and arguably Ellis, but at least Ellis did his due diligence on player purchases and realised he had made a mistake when appointmenting managers and moved on quickly enough to minimise the damage . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Crikey I forgot pulis is lurking out there - perish the thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just now, Eastie said: Crikey I forgot pulis is lurking out there - perish the thought We hire Pulis and im done, like seriously done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Monk sacked, I expect Carvahal soon. Club need to follow and give him the bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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