Zatman Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 hours ago, NottingVilla said: His interview on SSN "The big decisions went against us". People who were at the match, can I trust this wasn't a true reflection of events and we served up the usual shit? He must use that excuse every 3 weeks. Its as bad as lambert " we go again" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Paul33 said: The whole event was typical Bruce. We had the chance to compete with the country's top 16 on a high profile big stage and all we had to do was beat Middlesbrough Reserves at home and we never came close. To leave out your entire first team squad because of fear of injury is pathetic and typifies Bruce's fear laden approach to managing this club. Even if he didn't care for the cup and didn't care whether we won or lost, why not send the team out "off the leash" and play a 4-3-3 and tell them to enjoy themselves ? Why send them out playing that same old fear infused, negative dirge football that has been his trademark since he arrived ? The reason only 11,000 turned up is because, like me, they had zero expectation of seeing anything even mildly entertaining and that is NOT okay ..... it is NOT okay for this club to only pull 11,000 and it is NOT okay for a club of our stature with the roster we have to perform so pathetically against the second XI from Middlesbrough. Bruce is hanging by the most slender of threads at the moment and he brings that on himself with his abject failure to embrace this job and his abject failure to craft an attractive team from the best roster in the division. He'd better get it right on Saturday i am not bruces biggest fan but he did play a strong team and davis, terry and adomah lets say picked up injuries and were out for forest game. He would have got crucified. I support his decision. Forest is a far bigger game 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 hours ago, srsmithusa said: I guess I thought those that supported Bruce's defense against the hysterical thought he was right. If they think he was wrong to attack the fans that don't support him, I'll stand corrected. Any that want to repudiate his defense, I'll be waiting. I think he was wrong to attack the fans too. But again, that's not what we were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: Well we are really, because what he said has been picked up and used by those of a certain view point just as fickle was. You might be talking about that. I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Jareth said: Next saturday is the 4th game in 11 days - I get the feeling if you are 100% Bruce out you'd also be pelting him if he'd named an unchanged team. It would be valid if he didn't constantly chop and change seemingly every week. If he started playing a consistent team we might actually start getting consistent results. The keeper and JC, JT, NT and finally Hourihane are there and reward in a tight defence in the main but the rest of the team is in and out more than a porn star's willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 41 minutes ago, VillaCas said: The definition of "Hysterical" normally relates to wild uncontrolled emotion - i'd be happy to agree that my thoughts after a typical Bruce-inspired performance are often wild and occasionally uncontrolled However in the sense that Bruce ( and his supporters) uses "hysterical" there is the implication of overreaction, of a response out of context to events, of an unjustified criticism - after a year of zero progress and millions spent, Bruce should "batten down the hatches" and expect much more hysteria Again, I think there was one person in this thread who used the word hysterical. The only other people using it are people using it sarcastically as a way of criticising Bruce. Which is fine by the way. he deserves it because he was talking nonsense. But don't make up some straw man argument about posters using it to jump to Bruce's defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 20, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: You might be talking about that. I'm not. Then you shouldn't have said "we're" if you were only talking about yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Then you shouldn't have said "we're" if you were only talking about yourself. The "we" included the original post I was talking about, which was specifically referencing posters using the term. it wasn't a post about Bruce using it. Edited September 20, 2017 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: i am not bruces biggest fan but if he did play a strong team and davis, terry and adomah lets say picked up injuries and were out for forest game. He would have got crucified. I support his decision. Forest is a far bigger game Are we really THAT desperate now that losing one or even two players means we can't beat the likes of Forest ?!!!! Seems Bruce's negativity and fear is spreading to the fanbase now !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Paul33 said: Are we really THAT desperate now that losing one or even two players means we can't beat the likes of Forest ?!!!! Seems Bruce's negativity and fear is spreading to the fanbase now !!! Desperate? Have you not seen the last two home games? Adomah alone won us the game vs barnsley. Resting key players for more important games is vital jn my view. Its a long season You need to remember where we are. Not the force we once were. We have no divine right to beat forest but as the bigger side we are expected to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Are we really THAT desperate now that losing one or even two players means we can't beat the likes of Forest ?!!!! Seems Bruce's negativity and fear is spreading to the fanbase now !!! Has anyone said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 13 hours ago, DCJonah said: So now a few don't mind keeping Bruce even if we don't go up. Is this now the Steve Bruce charity? Did he win the lottery? He doesn't now need to meet club targets to keep getting millions of pounds to manage the club? Jesus. People have a differing opinion to yourself. Get over it. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Taxahunter said: When have we become a club where it's ok not to win matches, even if its a reserve side. Im tired of this bull shit. We are Aston Villa for god's sake. We are playing football to win games, I hate to loose, I hate to see us loose I want players for Aston Villa to feel the same. It's a little club syndrome to feel, its ok we lost this game, its only the cup, we wouldn't have won it anyway. As long as we have this approach, we wont get out of the mess we are in... Nice to know someone actually feels what this club should be all about . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Sums up the mentality of the club. You should never be ok with losing any match. I don't care what game it is. Bruce is more than happy to lose this game because his job is all based on league performances. That's his number 1 priority right now. Keeping his job or making sure he comes out of it looking like a manager dealt a rough hand when he is eventually sacked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Desperate? Have you not seen the last two home games? Adomah alone won us the game vs barnsley. Resting key players for more important games is vital jn my view. Its a long season You need to remember where we are. Not the force we once were. We have no divine right to beat forest but as the bigger side we are expected to. So rest a couple of players but rest the entire first team squad ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Has anyone said that? Yes - read the posts above ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just now, Paul33 said: Yes - read the posts above ! I did. Nobody said "losing one or even two players means we can't beat the likes of Forest" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted September 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2017 I don't get why RDM was sacked within 11 games last season when promotion wasn't as absolutely critical as it is this season. Meanwhile Bruce gets 40+ games and 2 transfer windows and a preseason and we look no closer to promotion despite how crucial it is we get promoted this time. At least with RDM we were actually unlucky to lose or draw some of those games and dominated teams. Whereas we get dominated by almost every single team we face under Bruce and rarely ever look like winning. How the hell are we supposed to get promoted like that? I feel like people still think we're the Aston Villa of old where a few draws and a couple of wins here and there is a good run and we're 'turning a corner'. ***** no. We don't have time to turn corners, and this kind of 'run' wouldn't even scrape us into the playoffs. We have to be winning the majority of games. I know this is a huge paradigm shift for us given what we're used to, but that's what's required, and we shouldn't accept any less. Bruce has no excuses, he has probably the best and most expensive Championship side ever assembled. It's now or never. And given the very ample sample size of 40+ games he's given us, it's not even close to hysteria to assume it's going to be never under Bruce. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm not particularly upset to lose in the Carabao cup (I had to look up the spelling!), although I'd have liked us to win. I'm more concerned that we only managed one shot on target in the 79th minute. That points the finger at coaching yet again. Bruce has to change Calderwood's and Clemence's focus if we're going to pick up points. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Paul33 said: So rest a couple of players but rest the entire first team squad ? I can see the logic behind it. I would have been more pissed off if someone like terry adomah or davis picking up a long term injury in a meaningless game. Its a very long season in championship we need as many fit players as possible 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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