Dave J Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I feel like I have to preface every post with the fact that I do want Bruce gone. But... I disagree with this entirely. I didn't see last night's game. But I've seen every other one and I definitely don't get the sense that he's lost the dressing room. Not in the slightest. Well it's just as well given the dross he turns out weekly - goodness only knows what it would be like if he did - wouldn't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 20, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Eastie said: Not much point according to the xia thread ; a poster there posted he had a meal with someone connected to xia and Ho and says xia can hardly speak much English and it is a pr man who runs his twitter account not he himself . page 473 of xia thread. Its absolute horseshit. I know that for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, romavillan said: Totally, of all the massive sticks lying about you can beat Bruce with, I don't think player unrest is one of them. So, it's a relatively meaningless cup game. And a center half is shown a red card. And the ok you're behind. Your team needs confidence and has had trouble scoring. You've got two forwards on the pitch that have been running dry and need confidence. What do you do? steve Bruce takes a forward off for a defensive center mid. As usual, cautious and safe wins in his thinking. Why not just go for it? Maybe get one of the forwards a bit of confidence. No! We would rather protect a losing score from getting worse. In a cup match. Bruce logic oh, I know he said it was for a sore fit. Player didn't seem to feel the need and e en if it was for that reason..., cautious and safe. It should be on the manager's resume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 So, it's a relatively meaningless cup game. And a center half is shown a red card. And after the pk you're behind. Your team needs confidence and has had trouble scoring. You've got two forwards on the pitch that have been running dry and need confidence. What do you do? steve Bruce takes a forward off for a defensive center mid. As usual, cautious and safe wins in his thinking. Why not just go for it? Maybe get one of the forwards a bit of confidence. No! We would rather protect a losing score from getting worse. In a cup match. Bruce logic oh, I know he said it was for a sore foot, but a. Player didn't seem to feel the need and b. Even if that was his thinking it proves my point. "cautious and safe." It should be his epitaph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: So, it's a relatively meaningless cup game. And a center half is shown a red card. And the ok you're behind. Your team needs confidence and has had trouble scoring. You've got two forwards on the pitch that have been running dry and need confidence. What do you do? steve Bruce takes a forward off for a defensive center mid. As usual, cautious and safe wins in his thinking. Why not just go for it? Maybe get one of the forwards a bit of confidence. No! We would rather protect a losing score from getting worse. In a cup match. Bruce logic oh, I know he said it was for a sore fit. Player didn't seem to feel the need and e en if it was for that reason..., cautious and safe. It should be on the manager's resume. It's a bit odd. Reports suggested Bruce was agitated on the touchline, as though the match were important. We're not going to win it, the attendance suggests most people don't care much about it. You'd think he could do without any extra games, and concentrate on the league. On that basis, you would try to please the crowd and let some players enjoy themselves, but he seems to have gone for a defensive approach and also playing several people out of position. There was a chance to make some people feel a bit better and he didn't take it. I don't get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 minute ago, peterms said: It's a bit odd. Reports suggested Bruce was agitated on the touchline, as though the match were important. We're not going to win it, the attendance suggests most people don't care much about it. You'd think he could do without any extra games, and concentrate on the league. On that basis, you would try to please the crowd and let some players enjoy themselves, but he seems to have gone for a defensive approach and also playing several people out of position. There was a chance to make some people feel a bit better and he didn't take it. I don't get it. There is nothing to get. The manager (who is proving that he doesnt suit us) has lost the plot (if he had one) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, peterms said: It's a bit odd. Reports suggested Bruce was agitated on the touchline, as though the match were important. We're not going to win it, the attendance suggests most people don't care much about it. You'd think he could do without any extra games, and concentrate on the league. On that basis, you would try to please the crowd and let some players enjoy themselves, but he seems to have gone for a defensive approach and also playing several people out of position. There was a chance to make some people feel a bit better and he didn't take it. I don't get it. I don't quite get it either......are we saying we are so scared of picking up injuries, we dispose of a cup game. He has put himself back under pressure, because if we lose Saturday this decision will look stupid. also, why do we play cracking yound kids with a bunch of losers.....are we trying to destroy them.....they should be on the bench for the first team. Steve you are becoming harder and harder to defend. you need to toughen up. Edited September 20, 2017 by TRO 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreveryoung Posted September 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Jareth said: 5 out of a possible 12,000 then... Don't patronise him, no one there enjoyed that game last night, maybe a few randoms who just went to watch 'some football'. Bruce must love the pressure because the weight he has put on his shoulders to win at Forest and many games in a row after that is immense. Last night, even if he wasn't bothered about the win, should have been entertaining attacking football. It was a home game after all. What we watched, yet again was a disjointed team and to me utter tripe. He has no idea what to do with this team and I guarantee you, we will win F**** all with him at the helm. The coaching is utter useless too, no idea. Us fans need to understand the money spent and the squad we have. Bruce, even though he has bought most of the players, does not seem to know what he has bought. Its not his usual boring graft it out team, we have technical players, who should be playing as a full on attacking force, with terry looking after the back. Instead we have a team who really have no idea who's where, never chase the ball down, no pass an run, just hoof an hope. A friend of mine who was close to the dugout also noticed alot of tension between players an manager last night. I can imagine the likes of Mccormack an Hogan are being asked to produce something out of nothing, as Bruce has never been able to understand how to play a technical type forward. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 we have the biggest squad in this league and quite afew decent youth players. We could easily handle the cup competitions and the league. Why the hell he played us so defensive in a cup game I have no idea, its shocking and just shows how worried about losing he is 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Spoony said: Have to agree with this. I imagine the dressing room is actually very much behind him. Unless you cross him, he strikes me very much as "the player's manager". He hasn't really blamed the players, he's blamed the history, the culture, FFP, referees, us, society, The Man, etc. He has blamed the youngsters, individually and collectively. And has constantly named any player failing to take a goal scoring opportunity, and therefor, by implication, contributing to our not winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Its just not acceptable to be as frit as he is. He has to show more confidence in his team. 4-5-1 is no good at home and not much good away.....unless you are coming off the back of a losing run. Edited September 21, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 20, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Spoony said: Have to agree with this. I imagine the dressing room is actually very much behind him. Unless you cross him, he strikes me very much as "the player's manager". He hasn't really blamed the players, he's blamed the history, the culture, FFP, referees, us, society, The Man, etc. Oh he has plenty of times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave J said: Well it's just as well given the dross he turns out weekly - goodness only knows what it would be like if he did - wouldn't you agree? Agree with what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, srsmithusa said: So, it's a relatively meaningless cup game. And a center half is shown a red card. And the ok you're behind. Your team needs confidence and has had trouble scoring. You've got two forwards on the pitch that have been running dry and need confidence. What do you do? steve Bruce takes a forward off for a defensive center mid. As usual, cautious and safe wins in his thinking. Why not just go for it? Maybe get one of the forwards a bit of confidence. No! We would rather protect a losing score from getting worse. In a cup match. Bruce logic oh, I know he said it was for a sore fit. Player didn't seem to feel the need and e en if it was for that reason..., cautious and safe. It should be on the manager's resume. Maybe Bruce wanted to lose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Maybe Bruce wanted to lose... Are you trying to give a GOOD explanation for his decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Agree with what? With the proposition that given the dross turned out each week, it would be even worse if he had lost the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave J Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Agree with what? I thought it's quite self explanatory - so please don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 20, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, peterms said: With the proposition that given the dross turned out each week, it would be even worse if he had lost the dressing room. Sorry, I thought @Dave J was trying to make a more profound point. Yes, I think we would play worse if Bruce had lost the dressing room. Obviously. Edited September 20, 2017 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 45 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Oh he has plenty of times. I have never seen Bruce "blame" the players. He has often said they know they need to do better. And I hope they do, because they do. I totally fail to see how he can be criticised for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: Are you trying to give a GOOD explanation for his decisions? Ha no, I don't really know what my trail of thought was, no one goes out to not win I guess, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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