Dr_Pangloss Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: Veretout so far has been a major disappointment and Ayew has become a waste of space in last month or so with a stinking attitude Veretout has been very poor, worth not even half of the fee we paid, Ayew hasn't scored enough and hasn't been consistent enough. Gana has been very good defensively but poor on the ball, £9m player? I don't think so, we over spent. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but Adama has been nothing but a profound waste of money. I'm an advocate of his talents but that money should have been used better. But if he sticks around and destroys the Championship next season my view will change. Amavi was the only one who caught my eye but even then his form dipped quite dramatically prior to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 The whole team dropped significantly just before Amavi's injury. Ayew is really frustrating, on many occasion he was in good positions and didn't get his head up and pass to players in better positions. He just hit weak shots. What Leicester have done is work together, what a lot of our players have done is become selfish. I think Ayew is trying to play well to engineer a move away by showing he is the only good player. Hardly working though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted March 31, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2016 'They' haven't delivered anywhere near enough, the only one who has been decent is Gana and Amavi gets a pass due to his injury, the rest were a massive waste of money. Maybe but they've performed better than the English contingent who seem to be trying to pass the blame to them. They're also not the ones poisoning the dress room, resisting a managers training methods because they're too intense (lazy ****) and making general idiots of themselves on social media. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2016 The french/french league signings are the only guys I'm interested in keeping. And Adama. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The french/french league signings are the only guys I'm interested in keeping. And Adama. I'm with you on that but if the wages bandied about re Adama are true, I'd have major reservations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 Just now, choffer said: I'm with you on that but if the wages bandied about re Adama are true, I'd have major reservations. I wouldn't. I'd understand if we got rid of him for that reason, but if he plays for a year in the championship then I'm confident we'd be selling him next summer (or beyond) for much more than we'd spend on wages on him next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Maybe but they've performed better than the English contingent who seem to be trying to pass the blame to them. They're also not the ones poisoning the dress room, resisting a managers training methods because they're too intense (lazy ****) and making general idiots of themselves on social media. That's no achievement. They are were poor signings, money that should have been used better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 Just now, Stevo985 said: I wouldn't. I'd understand if we got rid of him for that reason, but if he plays for a year in the championship then I'm confident we'd be selling him next summer (or beyond) for much more than we'd spend on wages on him next season. Fair point but I don't see our board sanctioning those sort of wages unless success is guaranteed. The average Championship player earns about £320k a year. I can't see us paying someone £50-80k* per week and I don't think it would be wise to. *I have no source for those figures other than speculation on VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) I can't see it either. But I just hope somebody at Villa realises Adama's potential and does the maths. 60k a week is £3.1 million a year plus change. How much would we get for selling Adama now? I'd say at absolute MOST, the 9m (was it 9?) we paid for him (and even that's a stretch). If he plays a year in the championship to the ability that a lot of us hope/know he would, there's absolutely no reason he won't be worth £12m+ and easily make up the £3m we'd have paid him. Edited March 31, 2016 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 I admire that even after the last few years, you are still optimistic enough to think that there's a conceivable alternative to the usual cutting off our nose to spite our face that seems to be the MO at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, choffer said: I admire that even after the last few years, you are still optimistic enough to think that there's a conceivable alternative to the usual cutting off our nose to spite our face that seems to be the MO at the club. 10 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I can't see it either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wouldn't. I'd understand if we got rid of him for that reason, but if he plays for a year in the championship then I'm confident we'd be selling him next summer (or beyond) for much more than we'd spend on wages on him next season. As we signed most of the new players on 4-5 year deals, I really hope we don't buckle in the summer and sell them all for low fees just to make some money back. If we don't get decent offers, we should tell the players they've got contracts and they're staying. I would personally hope that we aim to get back at least what we paid for the players that want to leave. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Garde gone, Adama and Grealish fit and available for Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Garde gone, Adama and Grealish fit and available for Saturday Cue the villa win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 14 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Garde gone, Adama and Grealish fit and available for Saturday Wouldn't be a total surprise. I think Garde showed he had no faith in Adama, and while Grealish let himself down with his actions, it doesn't seem like Garde was planning to use him much, regardless of what he told the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I'm very interested to see the players response on Saturday. Will they put a shift in now he's gone? Or will they continue to not be arsed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 We'll win 12-0, obvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 31, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 31, 2016 5 hours ago, DCJonah said: Wouldn't be a total surprise. I think Garde showed he had no faith in Adama, and while Grealish let himself down with his actions, it doesn't seem like Garde was planning to use him much, regardless of what he told the media. Grealish yes. Adama is a coincidence I think. He had a broken foot and this recovery time seems about right. He posted on facebook a week or two ago that he was close to coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 6 hours ago, KHV said: Cue the villa win Yeah, because with Garde gone and Adama and Grealish (snigger) back we'll suddenly start winning games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 Il be having my usual reckless bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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