Genie Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, Chindie said: That ideal world doesn't exist. Trade deals take forever. The only reason we thought we could get some done quickly is because we somehow thought everyone would be stupid enough to roll over the terms they have with the EU as a whole to us as s single entity. Shockingly they've mostly told us to get stuffed. Still, we've got a deal lined up with the Faroe Islands. The bird watchers will be happy. Yes, I agree. Just saying I think it was how leavers thought it would happen. Do deals with other major nations, then give EU a take it or leave it deal if they want a slice of the action too, easy money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, mjmooney said: Top US guitar makers C. F. Martin & Co have produced a Brexit guitar. I thought at first it was a spoof, but no, absolutely genuine. A mere $2,799 to you, sir. Bold move to put Jimmy Savile on the front 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, blandy said: This is unfair, genuinely so. It's not intelligence/lack of it that's the issue for many people... If the person on the street hasn't worked out Fascist Farage and the trust funded Brexit chums haven't got everyone's interest at heart? It's a con so large it's pulling the moon out of orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Xann said: It's a con so large it's pulling the moon out of orbit. Worse than that, it's pulling his Rolls out of the swimming pool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Between hunt and boris it's like asking to be set on fire or drown. I would say is have to go with hunt. At least he seems to have some kind of plan. Boris just looks like a bumbling back on and not answering any questions at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 11, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Between hunt and boris it's like asking to be set on fire or drown. I would say is have to go with hunt. At least he seems to have some kind of plan. Boris just looks like a bumbling back on and not answering any questions at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 One day people might actually demand what they want instead of just taking a bite of the shit sandwich on the left because it has less filling in than the other one. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted July 14, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 14, 2019 So it was Isabel Oakeshott who was behind the leak of the Darroch cables Just so we're clear thats Isabel Oakeshott, rumoured (as in its pretty common knowledge except they haven't admitted it) current partner of Richard Tice MEP, the Chairman of the NF Party Ltd. The same Richard Tice who thiinks that the new US Ambassador... “Should be pro-Brexit businessperson who can accelerate free trade talks Darroch had been lamentable at.” Who on earth could he mean? He claims he isn't interested Ms Oakeshott also claims that “Richard had nothing to do with the cables. He has never seen them, never handled them and was not involved in acquiring them. “Tempting though it is to put two and two together to make 55, there is no link between him and the ambassador story.” Ms Oakeshott is also stating that she needs to protect her source Quotes from The Mirror Looks like my Missus initial reaction was bang on the money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 14, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted July 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, bickster said: So it was Isabel Oakeshott who was behind the leak of the Darroch cables Just so we're clear thats Isabel Oakeshott, rumoured (as in its pretty common knowledge except they haven't admitted it) current partner of Richard Tice MEP, the Chairman of the NF Party Ltd. The same Richard Tice who thiinks that the new US Ambassador... “Should be pro-Brexit businessperson who can accelerate free trade talks Darroch had been lamentable at.” Who on earth could he mean? He claims he isn't interested Ms Oakeshott also claims that “Richard had nothing to do with the cables. He has never seen them, never handled them and was not involved in acquiring them. “Tempting though it is to put two and two together to make 55, there is no link How would a Brexit MEP get hold of very limited distribution diplomatic telegrams from the ambassador to the UK cabinet? I struggle to imagine him as the leaker. Courier/intermediary at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 14, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 hours ago, blandy said: How would a Brexit MEP get hold of very limited distribution diplomatic telegrams from the ambassador to the UK cabinet? I struggle to imagine him as the leaker. Courier/intermediary at most. I don’t think for one minute he’s the leaker, that makes no sense. It does give a clue to the motivation behind it though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 14, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, bickster said: It does give a clue to the motivation behind it though Oh yeah, definitely. As soon as you saw who it went to, it was a massive clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tonyh29 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 14/07/2019 at 10:55, bickster said: So it was Isabel Oakeshott who was behind the leak of the Darroch cables There are rumblings from America that Darroch was leaking confidential info to a US journalist , seems it would have been bad form to investigate him ( Five Eyes protocols prohibit intelligence monitoring of allies. ) so the leaks seem to have been a handy way for the Americans to make this go away but we are getting into conspiracy theory territory here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 16, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: There are rumblings from America that Darroch was leaking confidential info to a US journalist , seems it would have been bad form to investigate him ( Five Eyes protocols prohibit intelligence monitoring of allies. ) so the leaks seem to have been a handy way for the Americans to make this go away but we are getting into conspiracy theory territory here Oakeshott, to whom the telegrams were leaked, so who obviously knows who leaked them to her and why tweeted about the motivation behind the leaking - agreeing with Farage that it was because the leaker (and her) percieved Darroch to be anti-Brexit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ml1dch Posted July 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 16, 2019 I do wonder whether "narrowly won votes might be seen to have legitimacy issues" is an argument that Farridge really wants to be making. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted July 16, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: I do wonder whether "narrowly won votes might be seen to have legitimacy issues" is an argument that Farridge really wants to be making. The first reply to that is telling him that it was 52.3% of the vote. Which is more than the 51.9% who voted Leave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) Exclusive: 10 Labour MPs 'Ready To Back No-Deal Rather Than No Brexit At All' Quote As many as ten Labour MPs are ready to back no-deal over no Brexit at all, Jeremy Corbyn’s ex-frontbencher Emma Lewell-Buck has said. The South Shields MP told HuffPost UK she would defy the party whip and back crashing out over revoking Article 50 if there was no other choice. ... “I would obviously prefer to leave with a deal, but if it comes down to no Brexit or no-deal then I would go with no-deal because the consequences mean that Labour will not be in government in the future and we will lose seats. For me that is a far worse scenario than any Brexit outcome would be.” ... “At a guess, and I don’t speak for everyone, I would say eight to ten Labour MPs feel exactly the same way as I do.” ...rest of article on link Edited July 16, 2019 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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