Mark Albrighton Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 So for someone who tries to follow this but has a hard time doing so, which of these options (if any) has a fair chance of receiving a majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Is is bad to kinda hope some terrorist nutter blows the place up with all of them in it? Failing that a catastrophic earthquake/sinkhole or something. Edited March 27, 2019 by LakotaDakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Can someone please explain something to me? EU have said time and time again the deal will not be re-negotiated and that's what we get. Why do all the PMs get their hopes up on being able to negotiate anything other than no deal or May's deal? It just seems to be it's a massive stroke fest that will face an ugly verification once we go back to Brussels. I think the EU position has been that there is no realistic alternative within the constraints of the red lines insisted upon by May. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: So for someone who tries to follow this but has a hard time doing so, which of these options (if any) has a fair chance of receiving a majority? Probably anything that Labour whips to support will get close. But I'd be amazed if anything got close to a majority tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, Shropshire Lad said: So for someone who tries to follow this but has a hard time doing so, which of these options (if any) has a fair chance of receiving a majority? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Nick Watt is outside the 1922 room. I imagine she hasn't given any details and they'll probably all fall for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 **** mugs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: Nick Watt is outside the 1922 room. I imagine she hasn't given any details and they'll probably all fall for it. "When I said I'd 'go', I meant I'd 'go'... to the TOILET! All over you! Ha ha!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, mjmooney said: "When I said I'd 'go', I meant I'd 'go'... to the TOILET! All over you! Ha ha!!!" Aargh. That is not an image I wanted to have in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, mjmooney said: "When I said I'd 'go', I meant I'd 'go'... to the TOILET! All over you! Ha ha!!!" Given that a bunch of them refer to her as 'Mummy' I don't think you'd want to entice them too much. They'd be delighted licking it off the floor. All over them would be spoiling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Can anyone who is broadly supportive of Labour's Brexit "policy", explain something for me: Given they've said their immediate priority is "taking no deal off the table" why they aren't whipping to support the Cherry amendment which is the first realistic chance they've been given, to support precisely that? It's not contrary to anything they want, still leaves their constructive ambiguity nicely in place and does something they've repeatedly said is their priority. What am I missing? Edited March 27, 2019 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 So a load of them will now agree to something they don't believe in and know is shit just so that she leaves? But a 2nd referendum would "kill democracy" We are in the gutter....And we are not looking at the stars... 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Chindie said: Given that a bunch of them refer to her as 'Mummy' I don't think you'd want to entice them too much. They'd be delighted licking it off the floor. All over them would be spoiling them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yep. Mugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Don't panic, I'm sure the tories won't put party politics above the good of the country. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Can anyone who is broadly supportive of Labour's Brexit "policy", explain something for me: Given they've said their immediate priority is "taking no deal off the table" why they aren't whipping to support the Cherry amendment which is the first realistic chance they've been given, to support precisely that? It's not contrary to anything they want, still leaves their constructive ambiguity nicely in place and does something they've repeatedly said is their priority. What am I missing? You’re presuming that those amongst us who are left leaning have any more of a clue than anyone else? I’ve tried to keep up but gave up weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 27, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Can anyone who is broadly supportive of Labour's Brexit "policy", explain something for me: Given they've said their immediate priority is "taking no deal off the table" why they aren't whipping to support the Cherry amendment which is the first realistic chance they've been given, to support precisely that? It's not contrary to anything they want, still leaves their constructive ambiguity nicely in place and does something they've repeatedly said is their priority. What am I missing? Corbyn wants or would be happy with no deal, the rest of the party don't. Corbyn wants the tories to get the blame for a crap situation that will ensue after Brexit, so he can be PM and do 1970s again. Most of the rest of the Labour party want remain, or want to minimise/stop the damage Brexit will do (a very soft Brexit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Can anyone who is broadly supportive of Labour's Brexit "policy", explain something for me: Given they've said their immediate priority is "taking no deal off the table" why they aren't whipping to support the Cherry amendment which is the first realistic chance they've been given, to support precisely that? It's not contrary to anything they want, still leaves their constructive ambiguity nicely in place and does something they've repeatedly said is their priority. What am I missing? They would first need other options to fall. In a situation where it is a choice between no deal and revoke, they would revoke. Moving to that position too quickly is an invitation to all the press and all their opponents to paint them as having wanted to remain all along, which was not the position agreed at conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 She's only said that she would leave earlier than SHE intended. That might be in thirty years' time, and she'll go one day earlier! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 Are there two "I'll go early" cards in the deck of Chance cards in Tory Monopoly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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