desensitized43 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Guys, I’ve been in america for the past 5 days and I’m not back until Sunday. Any chance of a summary of what the **** is happening? As I literally have no clue On the Tory side - May has completely lost control of parliamentary agenda so we're having 'indicative votes'. Mogg and rest of the ERG are in the process of caving as we all knew they would given they're not going to be able to engineer a calamity. The DUP are still dancing on the head of pin as they know supporting the deal is as good as ensuring reunification. On the Labour side - **** knows what's going on tbh. Corbyn is a giant empty shell of a leader. For the first time in his entire life he refused to go on a protest march (apparently he had better things to do). In the absence of any direction it appears MP's are now just making stuff up and presenting it as party policy...it's a complete shitshow. Oh and May is still a massive word removed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Guys, I’ve been in america for the past 5 days and I’m not back until Sunday. Any chance of a summary of what the **** is happening? As I literally have no clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Sorry if already posted.. but after the Governemt response to the petition said they would certainly not be revoking article 50, they’ve sent me another email to say they are going to debate it on April 1st (I know). Sums the situation up absolutely perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, Genie said: Sorry if already posted.. but after the Governemt response to the petition said they would certainly not be revoking article 50, they’ve sent me another email to say they are going to debate it on April 1st (I know). Sums the situation up absolutely perfectly. Statement is triggered at 10,000 signatories Debate is triggered at 100,000 signatories The process forces them to do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, bickster said: Statement is triggered at 10,000 signatories Debate is triggered at 100,000 signatories The process forces them to do this Yeah, I get that. But why respond to say they won’t revoke it before the debate? They should at least pretend to take the biggest ever petition seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Genie said: Yeah, I get that. But why respond to say they won’t revoke it before the debate? They should at least pretend to take the biggest ever petition seriously. Because the debate won't be a binding debate, it won't even take place in the chamber, They are usually held in Westminster Hall The whole thing was always a con. People only use the petitions as unofficial polls due to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) EDIT: Seems to have taken a long time to decide, but Peston claims they will whip in favour: Edited March 27, 2019 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, peterms said: would it be a pedant to point out that he actually means General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmany Melchett , Haig is only in one episode giving advice on sticking pencils up the nose 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: would it be a pedant to point out that he actually means General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmany Melchett , Haig is only in one episode giving advice on sticking pencils up the nose See, this is why we have to leave. Damned foreigners have no understanding of nor respect for our national traditions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: would it be a pedant to point out Yes it would and it should also be pedantic not "a pedant" or Would I be instead of Would it be /blamingThatcher (No, Never!) 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) Not a foregone conclusion we will even have the indicative votes, because of course May is whipping them to vote down the business motion: Edited March 27, 2019 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Not a foregone conclusion we will even have the indicative votes, because of course May is whipping them to vote down the business motion: Wow probably for the piss you off thread but spox is irritating, especially as it's an abbreviated word that is totally unnecessary in the first place. Neither needed to be used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 27, 2019 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Not a foregone conclusion we will even have the indicative votes, because of course May is whipping them to vote down the business motion: "Parliamentary sovereignty". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: Because the debate won't be a binding debate, it won't even take place in the chamber, They are usually held in Westminster Hall The whole thing was always a con. People only use the petitions as unofficial polls due to that But now I'm reading that the speaker will select about half a dozen proposals ranging from doing exactly what the petition was asking, to leaving with no deal. So its been confirmed we certainly won't revoke article 50 before its even been debated, it'll be debated however on 1st April even though decision is already made, but it'll actually be debated today. Clear? Great. Edited March 27, 2019 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 This government is anti-democratic scum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 27, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted March 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This government is anti-democratic scum. The one thing both Leavers and Remainers would agree on, albeit for very different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This government is anti-democratic scum. All in it together https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47717397 Quote The government has spent $15.9m (£12m) on a luxury apartment in New York for a British diplomat working to negotiate trade deals with the US. The seven-bedroom flat in the 50 United Nations Plaza will house the British consul general in New York. Boasting panoramic views, the flat occupies the whole 38th-floor, according to the Guardian, which first reported the story. The Foreign Office said it had "secured the best possible deal". I'd have thought that there were better things to spend £12m on at the moment as we stare financial catastrophe in the face. Edited March 27, 2019 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 We can put that flat to good use striking deals with the everyday folk of the USA in our fight against the establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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