HanoiVillan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, bickster said: Was it ever anything more than a dead parrot? Definitely not, but it led to some amusing Twitter threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Who could possibly have seen such a thing coming? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Really pretty incredible to hear a Tory say things like this, from the perspective of the last 40-50 years (and arguably much longer): As an argument, it seems to have more in common with Tony Benn's 'Alternative Economic Strategy' than it does with Tory party orthodoxy, and it's quite hard to square with the praise they think we should be lauding with with for securing trade deals with eg Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted November 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Really pretty incredible to hear a Tory say things like this, from the perspective of the last 40-50 years (and arguably much longer): As an argument, it seems to have more in common with Tony Benn's 'Alternative Economic Strategy' than it does with Tory party orthodoxy, and it's quite hard to square with the praise they think we should be lauding with with for securing trade deals with eg Japan. Same tit in the same interview said that the lamb industry was going to have to diversify in to beef cattle. If anyone knows of a breed of cow that thrives on mountain sides, could they give the farmers a quick bell. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 My interpretation from watching the news leading up to the EU referendum was that the fishing and farm industry were in favour of taking back control. Has the news been lying to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Seat68 said: My interpretation from watching the news leading up to the EU referendum was that the fishing and farm industry were in favour of taking back control. Has the news been lying to us? Were the Brexit Tories and the right-wing billionaire press lying to everyone? Edited November 16, 2020 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: Same tit in the same interview said that the lamb industry was going to have to diversify in to beef cattle. If anyone knows of a breed of cow that thrives on mountain sides, could they give the farmers a quick bell. This is pre-GCSE level geography, seriously, there are many 14 year old children in the country that will know this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Seat68 said: My interpretation from watching the news leading up to the EU referendum was that the fishing and farm industry were in favour of taking back control. Has the news been lying to us? No, the political elites were lying to the fishing and farming industry. The trade press at the time were (broadly) in favour of remain. They knew the damage that would be done. Unfortunately the industries themselves decided to listen to stockbrokers and landowners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, ml1dch said: No, the political elites were lying to the fishing and farming industry. The trade press at the time were (broadly) in favour of remain. They knew the damage that would be done. Unfortunately the industries themselves decided to listen to stockbrokers and landowners. I live in a semi rural location, you couldn’t move for purple billboards in farmers fields here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Seat68 said: Has the news been lying to us? There's a carpet reality bombing acomin'! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I live in a semi rural location, you couldn’t move for purple billboards in farmers fields here. I remember going to a debate a couple of years ago (notlong after Gove outlines their proposed government payment policy so Oct 2017, I think) that had one of the local representatives of the NFU on it who suggested the split amongst their members was about 60-40 in favour of leaving (mainly around the CAP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Sounds concerning: But what on Earth could be the reason our ports are struggling, so close to Brexit? If you didn't laugh, you'd cry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: But what on Earth could be the reason our ports are struggling, so close to Brexit? Well, all those things you mention, definitely. But I expect it's mainly this: Quote Ex-Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has landed a £100,000 job advising the owner of some of the UK's top ports. The Conservative MP is working for Hutchison Ports, which operates Harwich and Felixstowe among other terminals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 . . . but of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 49% of people still aren't sure this was a colossal balls up. This country deserves the shafting it's about to get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes long, but certainly worth a watch. A tory I respect. There aren't many I can say that about, the current crop are shameless words removed to a person. It's stunning that Kay Burley is employed as a journalist, one has to say. Edited November 16, 2020 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 She comes across as a bit dim “ who are you referring to”. Really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 weeks to go. "Stock up on long life food just in case". What an unforgivable shambles. https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/nov/17/police-warn-no-deal-brexit-would-have-major-operational-impact Quote Schools have been told to stock up on longer shelf life products in preparation for a no-deal Brexit, as police chiefs warned that such an outcome would damage their ability to fight crime. Department for Education (DfE) guidance published on Tuesday urged schools to prepare for what was described as “possible changes to their food supply chain” from 1 January “so they can minimise the effect on pupils and young people in their care”. Stressing that schools would still be responsible for meeting children’s dietary requirements, the guidance said necessary changes might include “varying the timing and number of deliveries to allow for transport delays” and “ordering longer shelf life products during this period, such as frozen foods or foods that can be safely stored at room temperature”. Unions expressed concern with Paul Whiteman, general secretary of school leaders’ union NAHT warning: “Let’s be frank: there’s almost nothing that any school can meaningfully do to mitigate the effects of Brexit, as they have no control over what will happen after 1 January.” “So it is entirely wrong for the government to offload responsibility for a successful Brexit outcome onto schools and other public services.” The guidance came as a new letter from police chiefs warned that a no-deal Brexit would cause “major” operational damage to their ability to fight crime and terrorism. Crucial tools used millions of times a year would be lost, with their replacements slower and less effective, the letter from police chiefs warned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 In the defence of the government Brexit has been thrust upon them with only 4 years notice. There’s nothing anybody could have done to avert a potential disaster. We’ve all just got to pull together. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 18, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 16/11/2020 at 08:40, chrisp65 said: If anyone knows of a breed of cow that thrives on mountain sides, could they give the farmers a quick bell. Doozy. Here’s both a mountain cow and a bell. #Taking back Cow Tirol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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