StanBalaban Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: The bit - "we intend to restore Aston Villa FC to its rightful place". All well and good, but what we really want to know is how! A simple statement of intent from Randy Lerner outlining his plans to do this is what we've all been crying out for. Where are you Randy? Where are you? Edit: I read that back in the voice of Delia, maybe we should get her on the megaphone at the Southampton game. As they used to say in maths class at school, it's no good just filling out the answer, you need to show your workings out. Empty words are nothing without assuring us that there's a plan. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The search for ................... has commenced. I would have hoped it would have commenced long before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, PieFacE said: You know what, I'm not really sure why people are wanting any kind of statement from Randy. When Randy hired Hollis as the chairman, I saw that as a way of Randy saying "this is me handing all responsibility over to someone else". I'd be surprised if we ever heard from Randy again until the point where the club is sold. That's exactly what Lerner did. All he does now is own the wallet. Which ultimately means he has the power still but he's not actually making the decisions beyond the budget. And it's arguable that the aim, if intensely naive, is to cut that tie as well and have the club pay its own way. Hollis runs the club now. The money he has to do it comes from Lerner. It's Lerner washing his hands of his property to let someone else waste their time making it sellable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The worst part of Hollis letter is the suggestion that they are trying to establish the root cause of our problems. The root cause is pretty obvious. Lerner has made bad decisions on staff appointments and how he spent his money. Those staff have made bad decisions on staff appointments and how they spent the money available. So...the root cause is Lerner and the people Lerner appoints. Just remind me, who appointed Hollis? At the time of writing I am not worried about Premiership relegation. Its getting together a team that will not bw involved in a relegation struggle NEXT year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: The worst part of Hollis letter is the suggestion that they are trying to establish the root cause of our problems. The root cause is pretty obvious. Lerner has made bad decisions on staff appointments and how he spent his money. Those staff have made bad decisions on staff appointments and how they spent the money available. So...the root cause is Lerner and the people Lerner appoints. Just remind me, who appointed Hollis? At the time of writing I am not worried about Premiership relegation. Its getting together a team that will not bw involved in a relegation struggle NEXT year. As it stands I'm worried about next season, our transfers into the club have been poor for quite a few seasons. The lack of leadership on the pitch is blindingly obvious and it has showed in the results. We have nobody to command the defence and keep them in line, and nobody to run the midfield and give them a kick up the arse when their heads drop. I'd love some undiscovered talent to come in with the little funds we're bound to have, but I'd love to see a real grafter come in after all this time without any. Then again we could end up with a Lee Cattermole :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trekka Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2016 53 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: Also posted this in the Relegation Thread. Open letter to the fans from Hollis. Says nothing of note really. http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5502832,00.html Dear Supporters First, on behalf of the Board, let me express my deepest regret that I find myself writing this open letter to you, knowing just how much hurt, and pain, anger and anguish that will have been felt by you all after the Club lost its Premier League status this weekend. Your profound sadness is shared by everyone connected with the Club and whilest I know that this will be of little consolation in the days ahead, it should be a source of reassurance as we rebuild the foundations for future successes. We must acknowledge that this weekend's confirmation has been the culmination of an unacceptably fractured season both on and off the pitch. That isn't down to bad luck. To make such a claim would be insulting to each and every one of you. I must add that you have all displayed unyielding commitment in adversity. Whilest it is of little solace at present,; the process of identifying the root causes of our circumstances started long ago and the focus now has to be at looking forward and making sure that lessons have been learnt. The search for a new manager to provide drive, direction and immediate promotion has commenced. Together, we share the same goal. We intend to restore Aston Villa Football Club to its rightful place. It is a journey that we must make together so that we can bring success, enjoyment and exciting football back to Villa Park once more. Steve Hollis, Chairman 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 In fairness, 'that' is often redundant in a sentence and you can generally remove it and still have it read correctly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 Just now, Chindie said: In fairness, 'that' is often redundant in a sentence and you can generally remove it and still have it read correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 38 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: The worst part of Hollis letter is the suggestion that they are trying to establish the root cause of our problems. The root cause is pretty obvious. Lerner has made bad decisions on staff appointments and how he spent his money. Those staff have made bad decisions on staff appointments and how they spent the money available. So...the root cause is Lerner and the people Lerner appoints. Just remind me, who appointed Hollis? At the time of writing I am not worried about Premiership relegation. Its getting together a team that will not bw involved in a relegation struggle NEXT year. Talk about an awkward meeting Ah, yes, so , well, eh... Mr Lerner. We've found the root of the problem and, eh, how do I say this.... Turns out the problem is you. Fancy that, eh... I'll see myself out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I disagree with almost every single one of those 'corrections'. There's nothing wrong with reduced relative clauses, and I'm yet to hear a single convincing difference between 'while' or 'whilst' as conjunctions, except that 'whilst' sounds more pretentious. The semi-colon is just wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 59 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I disagree with almost every single one of those 'corrections'. There's nothing wrong with reduced relative clauses, and I'm yet to hear a single convincing difference between 'while' or 'whilst' as conjunctions, except that 'whilst' sounds more pretentious. The semi-colon is just wrong. Sorry, I was having a dig at the whole state of affairs if I'm honest. I wasn't serious (and yes, I know the semi-colon was wrong). I'm sorry if it offended you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 1 minute ago, trekka said: Sorry, I was having a dig at the whole state of affairs if I'm honest. I wasn't serious (and yes, I know the semi-colon was wrong). I'm sorry if it offended you. LOL, sorry, I know I'm a full on 'grammar bore'. Can't help myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, trekka said: Sorry, I was having a dig at the whole state of affairs if I'm honest. I wasn't serious (and yes, I know the semi-colon was wrong). I'm sorry if it offended you. I think C- is generous for the state of affairs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I know it's very easy to rip apart any communication or actions that AVFC come up with these days. It's quite cathartic if nothing else. But Hollis's statement has given me a bit of hope. No doubt I'm clutching at straws but Villa have been such a hopeless cause over the past few years I'll take anything. With this coming from Hollis, and the silence even more deafening from Lerner, it's a bit of hope that the story Lerner is holding up an appointment is incorrect. It's everything I want in communication from the club. It's straight down the line. No ridiculous mentions of biblical figures we've got to Google. It's thoughts, intentions and - importantly for a club that has almost taken pride in not telling supports what is going on - it's kept us up to date without giving away private details - namely that the search for a new manager has at least begun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 No more talking Hollis we want action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 5 hours ago, PieFacE said: You know what, I'm not really sure why people are wanting any kind of statement from Randy. When Randy hired Hollis as the chairman, I saw that as a way of Randy saying "this is me handing all responsibility over to someone else". I'd be surprised if we ever heard from Randy again until the point where the club is sold. So why is it being reported that they cannot get on with the new manager process/selection till Lerner tells them the budget? Bluntly he hasn't handed over all responsibility in anything but name. He still pulls the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, MikeMcKenna said: So why is it being reported that they cannot get on with the new manager process/selection till Lerner tells them the budget? Bluntly he hasn't handed over all responsibility in anything but name. He still pulls the strings. Because it's most likely media rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 You can see why we've appointed a chairman can't you? So Randy doesn't have to front up grow a pair and give an explanation. Just cant shake the feeling that the way we are run wont really change but the "football board" is an attempt to stop the fans anger from escalating from the already poisonous state its in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 Just now, PieFacE said: Because it's most likely media rubbish? We'll see..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Right move by issuing a statement, but we all know the words are basically just platitudes as long as the club remains in Lerner's vise grip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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