dounavilla Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Phumfeinz said: Good hobbies. I also enjoy eating. Do you enjoy eating? Only when not on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Phumfeinz said: I listen to music POTY GOAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 1 hour ago, HeyAnty said: My mistake, I was talking about Agbonlahor that i detest. Dont really have an opinion on Garde. Probably the right man at the wrong time. Right Man at the Wrong Time = Wrong Man !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Adbo9 said: Right Man at the Wrong Time = Wrong Man !! Two Sherwood's do not make a Garde. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, dounavilla said: Two Sherwood's do not make a Garde. Lerner IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 3 hours ago, ReasonforRevolution said: Favouring reform as opposed to wishing things to maintain the same. He has tried to up the ante in training to work on fitness. He has worked with and shown an awareness of the youth system. He even sent Gabby off to Dubai. Incidentally when we had an upturn in form. Maybe a coincidence. He has tried to implement a style of play we could build on in the future. Also worth remembering he hasn't had the opportunity to ship out the troublesome players in the dressing room. However I'm not stupid it is a result business and if the players aren't willing to move with this he will fall on his sword. I don't blame him entirely for that though. and we know he fits this criteria while british managers dont? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 7 hours ago, villan_007 said: 5 months in the job. No transfer window. No premier league strikers. 3 midfielders. Two shit keepers. No defense. Sacked. As ridiculous as it gets. and the worse record by any Villa manager ever, so you can't really justify him staying even with no transfer window. I think theres a few managers around that would have got more out of those players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 22, 2016 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, PaulC said: and the worse record by any Villa manager ever But he's taken over the worst Villa team ever, so it's not exactly surprising. Look, I'm on board with the "he hasn't done enough" comments. But people continuously quoting his record when he's only had half a season (so far) and was handed an utterly dreadful squad to work with isn't exactly fair. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 but it wasnt the worst team ever when Sherwood was in charge. many people said a good manager would get the best out of them and now as Garde failed his defenders are saying its the worst team ever the fact is he is worse than McLeish in style and in results and offers no hope for future, at least in McLeish defence he could scrape the odd 0-0 draw in games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 maybe you are right Stevo but I still think another manager might have got more out of them. His record is 12 pts from 21 games compared to 4 pts from 9 games for Sherwood. So slightly better points per game ratio but you would expect some improvement being the signings would have taken time to settle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It was the worst team ever by the time Sherwood left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 22, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: but it wasnt the worst team ever when Sherwood was in charge. many people said a good manager would get the best out of them and now as Garde failed his defenders are saying its the worst team ever the fact is he is worse than McLeish in style and in results and offers no hope for future, at least in McLeish defence he could scrape the odd 0-0 draw in games It is the worst team ever, and Sherwood is high up on the list of people responsible. McLeish had a hell of a lot more to work with, which again was the point. I'd wager Garde, with McLeish's squad, would be doing a hell of a lot better than he is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, PaulC said: maybe you are right Stevo but I still think another manager might have got more out of them. His record is 12 pts from 21 games compared to 4 pts from 9 games for Sherwood. So slightly better points per game ratio but you would expect some improvement being the signings would have taken time to settle I definitely think there are managers out there that could have done more, several shouters, relegation avoiders and quick fixers that in a year's time we'd still be sat here moaning that it's the year the shit finally gets flushed They brought garde in for long term, the problem is the only long term solution to us is to get relegated and sack / sell the lot and start again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 15 hours ago, Blasterpocket68 said: And did these feet of ancient time walk upon England's mountains greennnnnnnnn What an absolute plonker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: I definitely think there are managers out there that could have done more, several shouters, relegation avoiders and quick fixers that in a year's time we'd still be sat here moaning that it's the year the shit finally gets flushed They brought garde in for long term, the problem is the only long term solution to us is to get relegated and sack / sell the lot and start again Surely they picked him to keep us up. Only 10 games had gone at that time and we were just 4 pts adrift of 4th from bottom. We don't know whether Garde would be the man to rebuild our team long-term, what we do know that he has failed with this group of players. Its fair enough to say the players are crap but in defence in particular theres a lot of experience there. You wouldn't say the Leicester defence individually are so much better but collectively they are worlds apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 It's the experienced players that are the main offenders... I think everything about garde was thinking long term, either that or the board completely misunderstood what our problems were, sherwoods quick fix had failed and they didn't want another I personally don't buy in to this "he speaks French" bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: It's the experienced players that are the main offenders... I think everything about garde was thinking long term, either that or the board completely misunderstood what our problems were, sherwoods quick fix had failed and they didn't want another I personally don't buy in to this "he speaks French" bullshit but you can think long term all you want but when your players dont respect you from the start then you arent going to get far in this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: but you can think long term all you want but when your players dont respect you from the start then you arent going to get far in this game Does it matter for words removed like Gabby & Lescott? Rats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 31 minutes ago, Zatman said: but it wasnt the worst team ever when Sherwood was in charge. many people said a good manager would get the best out of them and now as Garde failed his defenders are saying its the worst team ever the fact is he is worse than McLeish in style and in results and offers no hope for future, at least in McLeish defence he could scrape the odd 0-0 draw in games Literally all of this is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 well he should have dropped them and told them they arent playing for the club again. but no he caters for Lescott like he is some wonderful defender even made him captain a few times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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