Dodgyknees Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I’m becoming more politically engaged than I have for ages. And I’ve just joined Momentum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, avfcDJ said: PMQs, again: Blame Labour for [?] Vaccine roll-out Employment best it’s been for years Full house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I actually think Starmer is doing well here. Pushing Boris back again, Boris won’t answer cos he knows there are likely more things that could come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 55 minutes ago, bickster said: I think we're way past that point to be honest. The public won't be any less angry when the report is published, the anger is deep lying and will just remanifest itself when it hits the news cycle again Oh I agree at this point, but I think it's why they initially tried it. Raise "independent" investigation. Kick the can down the road by as long as possible. Manipulate the outcome as much as possible. Release on a day with lots of other big news, if at all. It's dominated the news for too long to just disappear at this point, but it came right out of the usual playbook. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Oh I agree at this point, but I think it's why they initially tried it. Raise "independent" investigation. Kick the can down the road by as long as possible. Manipulate the outcome as much as possible. Release on a day with lots of other big news, if at all. It's dominated the news for too long to just disappear at this point, but it came right out of the usual playbook. I think more things will come out after the report to make the report look futile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Why does he keep getting away with the "fastest growing economy in the G7" and "40 new hospitals" comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Wainy316 said: Why does he keep getting away with the "fastest growing economy in the G7" and "40 new hospitals" comments. Cos he throws it in with mumbling and bluster and secondly, the media don’t give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: I hope Wakeford has the decency to call a by-election and get re-elected as a Labour politician. A tale of two tweets from Labour MP Charlotte Nichols: This guy has no identifiable left-wing views that I can see. He simply does not represent the Labour party IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) David Davis asking Johnson to go (“in the name of God”) Edited January 19, 2022 by Mark Albrighton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Mad Nad finally getting it right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Mad Nad finally getting it right. She could be right even today... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted January 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Taken out of office is too good, this idiot should be put behind bars, absolute disgrace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Vermin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: A tale of two tweets from Labour MP Charlotte Nichols: This guy has no identifiable left-wing views that I can see. He simply does not represent the Labour party IMO. I guess the question is whether the Labour party choose to keep him at the next election? Is it the local Labour party that control the selection of the MP running for that seat, or is it imposed on them by Labour HQ? I'm sure he'll be allowed to stay either way due to political expedience but it does seem a strange situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: I guess the question is whether the Labour party choose to keep him at the next election? Is it the local Labour party that control the selection of the MP running for that seat, or is it imposed on them by Labour HQ? I'm sure he'll be allowed to stay either way due to political expedience but it does seem a strange situation. In theory the local party decide; in practice head office will decide (on him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Plausible interpretation of today's events IMO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 19, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted January 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Plausible interpretation of today's events IMO: I can't see twits properly on this PC, but surely it depends on what the outcome of the investigation is before a rebellion can be said to have failed - I mean it (theoretically) might lay enough "involvement" on Bunter to make his position untenable in the eyes of at least 54 baby eating MPs? Surely, as well, if he gets a chunk of responsibility in the report, but escapes, just, and then the Tories get hammered in the local elections there will be more discontent and that could force him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted January 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 19, 2022 I'll just drop this here in case its relevance increases in the coming weeks: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 19, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, blandy said: I can't see twits properly on this PC, but surely it depends on what the outcome of the investigation is before a rebellion can be said to have failed - I mean it (theoretically) might lay enough "involvement" on Bunter to make his position untenable in the eyes of at least 54 baby eating MPs? What if the 54 letters are received before the investigation is complete? Someone will have done the maths, realised they can get the 54 but not the full 180 odd and then they can't do it again for a year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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