ender4 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 New thread for General Election 2017, so all parties can be discussed? I would start one, but i'm shy and lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, PaulC said: I think so, and now article 50 has been triggered, it cant be about that. Very clever. The only way this could backfire is if it becomes effectively a 'second referendum', however it's still unlikely to actually 'backfire' in any significant way. Lib Dems should benefit however, at the expense of Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, PaulC said: I think so, and now article 50 has been triggered, it cant be about that. Very clever. The only way this could backfire is if it becomes effectively a 'second referendum', however it's still unlikely to actually 'backfire' in any significant way. Lib Dems should benefit however, at the expense of Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The only question that matters, is who is Putin backing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, jon_c said: The only question that matters, is who is Putin backing? Why does this question matter at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted April 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2017 did anyone have The Labour party in the 2017 Deadpool thread ? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Well, well, well. You pop out to the shops for an hour or so and you return to find the lying Prime Minister has thrown the country in to a state of political instability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Why does this question matter at all? Think he's having a joke about Putin/Russia hacking elections, like they allegedly did in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted April 18, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2017 Her speech announcing this is blood boiling. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 didn't we have people moaning that May was an unelected PM ... and now she aims to become an elected PM we get ... more moaning I blame Twitter , of course ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Assuming a Tory majority, it means that their pledge about not raising taxes in 'this parliament' has just under 8 weeks of shelf-life left in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The scottish referendum and a refusal to call an election by Brown til it was too late destroyed Labour. The tories knew they wouldn't get anywhere north of the border, so out was wheeled Brown, Blair, Mandy and co all calling for remain. Alot of Scottish voters saw Labour siding with the Tories as a betrayal and thus come the general election moved vote to the SNP as a way of showing this betrayal by Labour. Of course the tories knew they did nothing in Scotland anyway but by the SNP clearing up it affectively wiped out the Labour party's chances of winning an election. Now fast forward to this election and a Labour party in more disarray, with what seems no strong mandate as opposition, with a large percentage of 'Brexit' seats being in Labour heartlands, it says crushing Tory victory. This will inevitably lead to a new leader, but with the Blair and Brown years still recent, and the publics deep mistrust of Brown and hatred of Blair, anything that is Blairite and seen as part of the gang is going to be rejected by people. Love or hate the tories, it has been a brilliantly hatched plan to destroy Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I blame the snooker: Corbyn had his chance, scattered the reds and got too obsessed with pinks and greens and ended up in baulk but luckily left May slightly snookered. May stepped in with some massive spin and although a maximum looks on, it looks like she will have to produce some fine positional play to prosper, which is a known weakness in her game. It is going to be a long tournament and as usual it is expected that the Scots will have a big say in the outcome but it is certain that someone is going to get screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, DK82 said: Think he's having a joke about Putin/Russia hacking elections, like they allegedly did in the USA. Yeah, sorry. Tongue was firmly in cheek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: The scottish referendum and a refusal to call an election by Brown til it was too late destroyed Labour. The tories knew they wouldn't get anywhere north of the border, so out was wheeled Brown, Blair, Mandy and co all calling for remain. Alot of Scottish voters saw Labour siding with the Tories as a betrayal and thus come the general election moved vote to the SNP as a way of showing this betrayal by Labour. Of course the tories knew they did nothing in Scotland anyway but by the SNP clearing up it affectively wiped out the Labour party's chances of winning an election. Now fast forward to this election and a Labour party in more disarray, with what seems no strong mandate as opposition, with a large percentage of 'Brexit' seats being in Labour heartlands, it says crushing Tory victory. This will inevitably lead to a new leader, but with the Blair and Brown years still recent, and the publics deep mistrust of Brown and hatred of Blair, anything that is Blairite and seen as part of the gang is going to be rejected by people. Love or hate the tories, it has been a brilliantly hatched plan to destroy Labour. In the last 3 elections they won Labour would have still have been in power without any seats from Scotland ... just with a smaller majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted April 18, 2017 Moderator Share Posted April 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: didn't we have people moaning that May was an unelected PM ... and now she aims to become an elected PM we get ... more moaning I blame Twitter , of course ... I blame the consistent element of May 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: In the last 3 elections they won Labour would have still have been in power without any seats from Scotland ... just with a smaller majority In the last 3 they won yes but since the last 2 elections there has, in my opinion, a sly scheme to erode the labour party by the conservatives thus the need by Labour as we stand, and in those 2 elections, for the Scottish vote due to a growing mistrust by the electorate after the 2008 crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: didn't we have people moaning that May was an unelected PM ... and now she aims to become an elected PM we get ... more moaning I blame Twitter , of course ... no. People were pointing out the irony of the person leading the UK away from unelected power by an unelected power. Nothing about this is her trying to ease concerns about being unelected. Calling it 'moaning' is typical diversion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: The only way this could backfire is if it becomes effectively a 'second referendum', however it's still unlikely to actually 'backfire' in any significant way. Lib Dems should benefit however, at the expense of Labour. Too late for that now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: didn't we have people moaning that May was an unelected PM ... and now she aims to become an elected PM we get ... more moaning I blame Twitter , of course ... You're annoyed by people's inconsistancy, yet somehow supporting May? It's no time for playing politics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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