desensitized43 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, DCJonah said: It's because people can't stand the idea of people who need help getting more than the bare minimum level of support. You think in a jealous way? Ahmed from Syria gets put up at the local 3 star while i have to go to work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 Like most things now, opinions on refugees / asylum seekers tends to be polarised, you’re either willing to open the floodgates and let everyone come in and be happy for the tax payer to foot the subsequent bills or you’re a member of the BNP. As always, the reality and truth sits somewhere in the middle I’d suspect. Like all the worlds problems, there is no simple answer or solution. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, DCJonah said: It's because people can't stand the idea of people who need help getting more than the bare minimum level of support. We have a real drawbridge culture emerging in the UK. People vote to keep those below them, below them. Two examples, one specific to here, and one general. Someone posted about a thought experiment that was done; people were asked would they rather than a 2m pound house (can't remember the exact number) in a neighbourhood of 5m pound houses or a 500k house in a neighbourhood full of 250k houses, and people will take the 2nd option more often than not. The second thing was on here during the last election. A poster was discussing their brother (I think) who was a manager in a restaurant who voted Tory, because Labour wanted to bump up the minimum wage which would bring his employee's salary closer to his. Regardless of these policies helping him out, it was about keeping himself above those below him. It's a real mental way of thinking, but it's the reason poor people keep voting Tory. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, desensitized43 said: Really not sure what the problem is with this “refugees in hotels” thing. I remember there was some noise around a hotel on the A38 in Bromsgrove near where I work because they’d decided to house asylum seekers. There were grammatically suspect leaflets put through peoples doors “informing” them and I remember seeing a video (might have even been posted on VT) of a far right bellend walking the corridors of the hotel knocking on doors telling the refugees to “enjoy their stay at my expense”. Pretty shameful stuff. Really not sure what the upset is here. If the hotel had been fully booked out with “regular” guests it would be perfectly fine. The argument that “it’s not a hotel anymore” is kind of a crap as well. What’s the problem? Exactly. If it was a successful hotel with a bright future it wouldn't be accepting housing refugees and Asylum seekers. Nobody is forcing them to do it. In reality, hotels that are doing this are more than likely struggling and not particularly good hotels in the first place. This gives those hotels and income and creates somewhere to house these people in need of accommodation. It's only the NIMBY lot that really care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, desensitized43 said: You think in a jealous way? Ahmed from Syria gets put up at the local 3 star while i have to go to work? I think there's definitely people who think that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phil Silvers Posted April 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 Looking in here for the best up to date balanced chat about this ******* despicable political party is great, I learn so much. Interestingly, their diversion tactic of treating asylum seekers like shit has got this thread straight off the get the lying law breaking evil bastards out off bunters back for a while, evil bastards, **** with people like pieces of dirt. I live in a Tory area and come local elections they come around door knocking, I normally don't give them the time of day and politely say not interested, I might kidnap one of the bastards next time, rocket polishers. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Looking in here for the best up to date balanced chat about this ******* despicable political party is great, I learn so much. Interestingly, their diversion tactic of treating asylum seekers like shit has got this thread straight off the get the lying law breaking evil bastards out off bunters back for a while, evil bastards, **** with people like pieces of dirt. I live in a Tory area and come local elections they come around door knocking, I normally don't give them the time of day and politely say not interested, I might kidnap one of the bastards next time, rocket polishers. The balance goes out of the thread as people who vote Tory cant defend the stuff they are doing, so its just a shit show of abuse against them (rightly so). They will still vote anyway as they dont need to respond to scrutiny or criticism to justify their "choice". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post choffer Posted April 15, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: I live in a Tory area and come local elections they come around door knocking, I normally don't give them the time of day and politely say not interested, I might kidnap one of the bastards next time, rocket polishers. I arrived home last night to find a bloke with a handful of leaflets trying to get access to the block of flats I live in. He asked if I’d let him in to distribute them. He showed me the leaflet and it was from our local Tory candidate. I told him I wasn’t interested. When he tried to push past me to get it, I proudly told him nobody else was interested* either and he had to do one. I think I might be antidemocratic but I’m kinda ok with it. * I may not have been as polite as I’ve made it sound here. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, choffer said: I arrived home last night to find a bloke with a handful of leaflets trying to get access to the block of flats I live in. He asked if I’d let him in to distribute them. He showed me the leaflet and it was from our local Tory candidate. I told him I wasn’t interested. When he tried to push past me to get it, I proudly told him nobody else was interested* either and he had to do one. I think I might be antidemocratic but I’m kinda ok with it. * I may not have been as polite as I’ve made it sound here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 on twitter you'll see all the tory fans making this claim, yet the party they support won't actually confirm it. At one point do they realise they're once again being manipulated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 15, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil Silvers said: I live in a Tory area and come local elections they come around door knocking, I normally don't give them the time of day and politely say not interested, I might kidnap one of the bastards next time, rocket polishers. Me too, but I’ve resolved to engage them next time, take up as much of their time as possible, completely waste it, of course, as hell would freeze over before….etc. That way they’re not down the street persuading some wavering half wit to vote for them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, blandy said: Me too, but I’ve resolved to engage them next time, take up as much of their time as possible, completely waste it, of course, as hell would freeze over before….etc. That way they’re not down the street persuading some wavering half wit to vote for them. Good shout, I'll do the same. I'll make sure to have some stale cake on standby too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Another day to be proud of the government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: I live in a Tory area So does just about everybody else thanks to Jeremy Corbyn! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, Nicho said: Another day to be proud of the government Don't tell me they've had a hand in Dyche's sacking too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Don't tell me they've had a hand in Dyche's sacking too. If there’s any hope the hard core Cristian right wingers will have Dyche back in position by Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 15, 2022 50 minutes ago, Risso said: So does just about everybody else thanks to Rupert Murdoch and Vladimir Putin. FTFY 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted April 15, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 14/04/2022 at 18:46, foreveryoung said: I'm not sure what the answer is, don' think it's this. But when our local 5 star hotel, (amongst many others) where my pal got married is now closed, full of asylum seekers, there is something seriously wrong. care to share the name of the hotel? wouldn't mind checking out the tripadvisor reviews because it clearly wasn't performing very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 I hope this means the word removed resigns! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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