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22 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

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This is just standard Conservative stuff isn't it? (rhetorical)

They always oppose positive social change because it's going too far, take us backwards, and then have to double back around when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that that change was the right thing to do. Obviously renewable energy like wind is at the final part of that loop process where they push for it and claim that's what they wanted all along.

It's not just a UK thing. BLM, Climate change, trans rights, universal healthcare etc are all on that "it's going too far" part of the cycle. Give it a few years and they'll be all pro that and claiming they were for it all along

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59 minutes ago, Stevo985 said:

This is just standard Conservative stuff isn't it? (rhetorical)

They always oppose positive social change because it's going too far, take us backwards, and then have to double back around when it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that that change was the right thing to do. Obviously renewable energy like wind is at the final part of that loop process where they push for it and claim that's what they wanted all along.

It's not just a UK thing. BLM, Climate change, trans rights, universal healthcare etc are all on that "it's going too far" part of the cycle. Give it a few years and they'll be all pro that and claiming they were for it all along

Oh definitely yes, it's the standard 'standing athwart history yelling 'stop'' mindset that conservatives have. I think the main point of the tweet is the repetition of this deeply weird - and frankly nonsensical - line about rice puddings.

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2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

Oh definitely yes, it's the standard 'standing athwart history yelling 'stop'' mindset that conservatives have. I think the main point of the tweet is the repetition of this deeply weird - and frankly nonsensical - line about rice puddings.

He’s being self deprecating isn’t he? Making fun of the fact he’s changed his mind. 

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4 hours ago, LondonLax said:

He’s being self deprecating isn’t he? Making fun of the fact he’s changed his mind. 

Not really, he's allowing that as an out for when people actually highlight that he was one of the ones who said it.

For the majority of the audience (not at conference but those who will read the headline about his speech, i.e. very casual observers who like the 'funny' Johnson), they won't know anything about his column or the family joke and they'lll just think that he's telling it straight and, if pushed, would probably reckon it was Labour or the EU that he was talking about.

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On 29/07/2020 at 18:42, ml1dch said:

Favourite is Allegra Stratton. Four years at Newsnight, four years in charge of ITV News, quit earlier this year to be Director of Comms. for Rishi Sunak and married to none-more-in-the-Government-loop journalist James Forsyth.

Pretty much the perfect CV for their Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda.

 

Called it. 

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Brexit: Boris Johnson’s new laws put UK on ‘very slippery slope’ to dictatorship, warn ex-Supreme Court president

Lord Neuberger is second former supreme court judge to speak out this week

The government's latest Brexit legislation puts Britain on a "very slippery slope" towards a dictatorship, the former president of the UK Supreme Court has warned.

In a major intervention Lord Neuberger, who presided over the country's highest court from 2012 to 2017, said the government's proposals sought to do away with "one of the most important aspects of any democratic society".

Speaking at a virtual meeting of eminent lawyers on Wednesday evening the judge told MPs and peers that the offending clauses of the bill "need to be defeated", preferably in parliament.

"It seems to me that this bill is quite extraordinary and is very worrying," he said. Clauses included in the Internal Market Bill allow the government to "freely breach its obligations under international treaties" and also "make regulations which it would appear the courts are not entitled to review", he said.

"This country has a remarkable unbroken history of 350 years of observing the rule of law, and has an enviable reputation for that: it gives us authority abroad when we criticise other countries for breaking international law," the top judge, now a crossbench peer, warned.

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Frustrated EU tells Johnson to ‘put Brexit cards on table’

Brexit: No-deal more likely by the day, top EU official says

"At home, one of the most important aspects of any democratic society is the right of individuals to go to court, to challenge the government when the government has done something wrong, when the government has breached the rights of individuals. Once you deprive individuals, people, of the right to go to court, to challenge the government, you are in a dictatorship, you are in a tyranny.

"Quite how often and to what extent judges should interfere with ministers' acts if a matter of opinion and judgement ... but the rights of citizens to go to courts and protect their rights and ensure that the government complies with its legal obligations is fundamental to any system.

"The fact that this particular right is proposed to be taken away by legislation is a very fundamental problem. It is the beginning, it can be feared, of going down a very slippery slope."

 

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Is it sinking in yet, Tory voters?

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