alreadyexists Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 As much as I like his (albeit seemingly limited so far) ability, and the fact that he looks promising and quick and powerful, I can't see anyone else coming in for him. Unless it's based on a 'he's from Barcelona' (sound like Basil Fawlty) sort of thing, as he hasn't really done any thing to showcase himself here, not that we've helped him with that as previous managers just haven't played him enough imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, JPAngel said: Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? We've been managed by sherwood , garde and black in the time he has been here . I think that answers your question 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, JPAngel said: Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? But there is a difference between having talent and having the mentality to go with it. It's similar to Ravel Morrison. It could be the case that he just blatantly disobeys his manager' instructions and does his own thing. No manager is going to put up with that regardless of his talent. It seems that quite a few of last years recruits had bags of talent but didn't have the mentality to go with it. I think RDM has alluded to assessing player's personalities this time round. When O'Neill was in charge he seemed buy leaders regardless of their talent. IIRC Petrov, Zat Knight, Reo-Coker, Davies, Luke Young, Cuellar had all captained their previous teams at some stage before we signed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: But there is a difference between having talent and having the mentality to go with it. It's similar to Ravel Morrison. It could be the case that he just blatantly disobeys his manager' instructions and does his own thing. No manager is going to put up with that regardless of his talent. It seems that quite a few of last years recruits had bags of talent but didn't have the mentality to go with it. I think RDM has alluded to assessing player's personalities this time round. When O'Neill was in charge he seemed buy leaders regardless of their talent. IIRC Petrov, Zat Knight, Reo-Coker, Davies, Luke Young, Cuellar had all captained their previous teams at some stage before we signed them. I remember thinking how great this was when we signed them all. I know he wasted A LOT of cash here but MON did have his head screwed on for the most part didn't he? Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoof hearted Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 12 hours ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: By just plugging the text at the bottom in to google translate, he says something like "I'm bound to Aston Villa by a contract. If it pleases God you'll hear in the coming days", then "Three years. Not Two years." when asked about how long his contract was for, and judging by the next question I think his previous answer can be interpreted as "I signed for Three years, so Two left." Then when he's asked if he'll stay for the two years of his contract in the second decision "We'll see. We'll see." It's all very non-committal. Personally it seems he'd be willing to give it a year in the Championship unless he gets an offer that is too good for him to turn down, but will probably be looking for a way out if we don't bounce straight back up. Not trolling and agree with everything but won't Barcelona have some input on where Adama ends up and not him? I only ask because of the buy back clause in his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, JPAngel said: Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? Well, how about these for starters...I thought Id use Internationals just for this illustration...under numerous and varied England Managers, some which spring to mind are Denis Mortimer 0 England Caps Gary Shaw ? 0 England Caps Flair players ? Well.. Sid ? 10 Matthew Le Tissier ? 8 Alan Hudson ? 2 Its not unheard of for players to be talented but overlooked. These are just a few off the top of me 'ed. FWIW I thing Adama could easily be a liability - but he certainly has shown, in glimpses, that he could be very destructive. It really does seem to me we could afford 1 player like him, if RDM can get him to tick. Could be like Taarabt was for QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 2 hours ago, JPAngel said: Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? Injury kept him out and then with our losing streak, sherwood tried to be defensive and made some strange choices. At times Garde made mcleish look adventurous. Black, had a clean slate, and chose to be a word removed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 hours ago, JPAngel said: Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? There is good and then there is Kieran Richardson and Scott Sinclair good. I have high hopes for Traore but I am not sure he can reach those standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Richard said: We've been managed by sherwood , garde and black in the time he has been here . I think that answers your question He has also been injured must we forget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 Gotcha. I didn't see the Notts County game so I've not really seen much of him. The general consensus is that he'll smash the Championship. Here's to happening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 So do we know yet whether he has trained ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 6, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2016 There was a young kid outside BMH this week who got pics with players on the way in, and Adama was in one of those. So he's definitely there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 hes injured at the moment. Probably with the physios not on the field training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, KSV said: hes injured at the moment. Probably with the physios not on the field training. Where've you read this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 33 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Where've you read this? It was in an article a few weeks ago. Can't remember where. It wasn't a serious injury. Thigh or groin strain. Anyone else see it or am I imagining it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, KSV said: hes injured at the moment. Probably with the physios not on the field training. Where've you read this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 11 hours ago, KSV said: It was in an article a few weeks ago. Can't remember where. It wasn't a serious injury. Thigh or groin strain. Anyone else see it or am I imagining it.. So he's not training now having picked up a non-serious strain a few weeks ago? That doesn't sound promising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 well the article said not a serious injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 On 7/6/2016 at 09:58, JPAngel said: Genuine question. If he's so good, why has he gotten zero game-time under any manager we've had? Genuine question, how shit out of ten were all of those managers? Answer 10/10, three utterly shite managers were at the helm last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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