TrentVilla Posted September 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2017 54 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: They have lost their london license. Actually shocked at this Won't be renewed wasn't it? Not quite the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Won't be renewed wasn't it? Not quite the same thing. I was under the impression from Sadiq Khan that they wont be able to operate in London anymore if their appeal is rejected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) guess it's back to going home in unlicensed mini cabs after a late night in London now .. much safer for people than an app that uses licensed drivers and no cash required Edited September 22, 2017 by tonyh29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2017 Another step closer to a Rees-Mogg utopia, a better time, a simpler time. People who can't afford a Hackney carriage should stay at home. Or put in an extra shift down the asbestos mine so they can earn a few extra farthings towards giving themselves a leg up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I have profound problems with the Uber business model and their treatment of employees (I'd extend this to the 'gig economy' writ-large) however this is on net a bad thing. What this does is serve to maintain the TFL monopoly allowing them to continue to set extortionate rates for black cabs. Personally, I've had fares that have amounted to £10 per mile in the past, just outrageous. That said, you can use other firms such as Hailo and Kabbee, who will step in and take Uber's market share, whilst other players will come on the scene, Taxify for example will sort itself out and become operable again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Looking at the response from my friends on FB, there's a fairly obvious gender split. The guys aren't impressed with the service being suspended, but there's some proper hate towards Uber from the girls! Guessing there's been a couple of bad experiences, judging from the venom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted September 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2017 I'd always presumed that Uber was yet another company abusing the labour laws but having been forced to use them a few times in the recent past, I've always been keen to find out what their drivers think. I don't think I've met one yet that didn't love being an Uber driver. Many of them drive to supplement their income and are glad of the extra money. The last one I took was driven by a guy who was driving to help him through medical school. Actually, I'm not really sure what my thoughts are on the Uber model - I still think it's something slightly exploitative but I'm prepared to put my objections on that score to one side for the sake of convenience. In terms of the licence loss, it's still a new thing though and all new things take time to settle down. I'm sure there can be an argument made that Uber aren't listening to criticism and changing their policies quickly enough but to stifle such an obviously popular service in such a way doesn't seem to be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Heaven forbid the people of this country should have something moderately affordable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 The taxi drivers and the public transport operations have both staged demonstrations about Uber in Lodz. It's even cheaper over here. An Uber to work for me is 12zl (2.50) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I have profound problems with the Uber business model and their treatment of employees (I'd extend this to the 'gig economy' writ-large) however this is on net a bad thing. What this does is serve to maintain the TFL monopoly allowing them to continue to set extortionate rates for black cabs. Personally, I've had fares that have amounted to £10 per mile in the past, just outrageous. That said, you can use other firms such as Hailo and Kabbee, who will step in and take Uber's market share, whilst other players will come on the scene, Taxify for example will sort itself out and become operable again. I'll be honest and say I've not read up on the subject , but I've yet to have a conversation with an Uber driver who doesn't like the arrangement they have with Uber ... the guys (and girls) I've spoken to said they get the fee from a journey and Uber takes a % as their cut , but that Uber offer them help and support for their tax returns , expenses and what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I also have only heard positive things from drivers. One told me he earns less money compared to being a regular private hire cabby, but it was worth it as the Uber passengers were a far better quality of passanger. No drunken slobs abusing him in his cab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 And you work when you want. Just fire your app up and go for a drive if and when you feel like it. Sounds quite appealing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Another step closer to a Rees-Mogg utopia, a better time, a simpler time. People who can't afford a Hackney carriage should stay at home. Or put in an extra shift down the asbestos mine so they can earn a few extra farthings towards giving themselves a leg up. Aren't those the people in Uber jobs these days? I get your point re Mr Mogg but Uber is fairly deplorable company that isn't exactly a champion of the have not's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 22, 2017 Administrator Share Posted September 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I get your point re Mr Mogg but Uber is fairly deplorable company that isn't exactly a champion of the have not's. The drivers that I've met seem happy with their employers. I'm not sure it's Uber's function to care about the "have not's". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, limpid said: The drivers that I've met seem happy with their employers. I'm not sure it's Uber's function to care about the "have not's". You mean themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 22, 2017 Administrator Share Posted September 22, 2017 34 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: You mean themselves? They seem happy with the entity providing them work and remuneration on whatever contractual basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Well I hope they don't get shitcanned in Brum, I find them more reliable and certainly cheaper than the other clowns in our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 It seems they have a customer and driver profiling system - Greyball. It helped them avoid regulation. It has a Wiki entry. Quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Drivers I spoke to were happy with the arrangement too, I spoke with a cab driver that subsequently "long hauled" me (only used due to no signal) that cabs were up against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 23, 2017 Moderator Share Posted September 23, 2017 17 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Aren't those the people in Uber jobs these days? I get your point re Mr Mogg but Uber is fairly deplorable company that isn't exactly a champion of the have not's. I agree with you, but I feel like an administration hell-bent on deregulating the labour market somehow had other reasons for wanting this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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