KSV Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: Agreed. We need to start winning games so need to be prepared to play him in that position and sacrifice an extra cm player. Did anyone else notice that it looked like he refused to shake Garde's hand when he came off? Yeah I noticed that. He probably thought he was doing better than others but Garde felt he was tiring. I think he just didn't see him. He needs to be playing behind Gestede and Ayew. Not wide and not in a midfield three. Play him the way coutinho plays for Liverpool. He wastes alot of his effort tracking back the opposition full backs.. Barely had energy to attack. Wasted. Why can't we use him correctly. The way Lambert used him was spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 22, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2015 Yep, put Gestede back up front and Ayew wide if he wants to stick to 4-3-3 Ayew's looked decent out there when he's played there even if it's not his proper position, and I'd be more confident of him whipping a cross in than Gil. Get Gil in Veretout's position and thread some balls through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 absolute woeful today, he is too slow and one dimensional for all the hype he received Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Diabolical. Shouldn't be played out wide, poor decision from the manager, play him as a number 10 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The more he plays the more it makes last years OTT reactions look more ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 and the fact that many think he's our best player. Underwhelming performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 Still think he needs to play centrally. Replace Veretout with Gil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) 2 points in 15 games he's started under 3 different managers. All a massive coincidence, of course. Edited November 28, 2015 by kurtsimonw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 He's a decent player but overhyped on here. Without a striker of Benteke's quality up there all our attacking options look poor. He also has no right foot whatsoever. At start of second half, Gomes dropped the ball for the 100th time and all he had to do was kick it right footed as the goal was open and instead he did his cut back and lost it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Was poor today but the some of the reaction on this thread is hilarious. He is still one of our better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 For one he isn't a winger but yes, wasn't great today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'd give him a go in the middle, just because he's a player that's built for that role. He doesn't have the pace to really make things happen out wide. I'd start Traore over Veretout and, as Stevo said, put Gil in Veretout's role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 28, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, kurtsimonw said: I'd give him a go in the middle, just because he's a player that's built for that role. He doesn't have the pace to really make things happen out wide. I'd start Traore over Veretout and, as Stevo said, put Gil in Veretout's role. Exactly. He's not quick enough to beat a full back and whip a cross in, so what can he do from wide when the only player ahead of him is an isolated Ayew? ALl those passes Veretout was attempting and missing today, those are the kind of passes I could see Gil making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, kurtsimonw said: I'd give him a go in the middle, just because he's a player that's built for that role. He doesn't have the pace to really make things happen out wide. I'd start Traore over Veretout and, as Stevo said, put Gil in Veretout's role. I would move him central but maybe more 4-4-1-1 Sanchez would be the one to drop out for me , he's like a giraffe on ice at times and makes far to many mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 4 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: Was poor today but the some of the reaction on this thread is hilarious. He is still one of our better players That's why we're going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Just now, VillaChris said: That's why we're going down. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 The thing with Gil is simple. he's not a winger, too slow and too weak. Similar to Mata at Utd. who is also playing on the wings, Gil is just not as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 And I don't mean he's a bad player but if we're hyping him as our star player who potentially can score or set up and win us games then the stats indicate Gil falls well short of this despite being a nice player to watch. If Grealish can stop messing around and sort his head out then his bar to me is far higher than Gil's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: If Grealish can stop messing around and sort his head out then his bar to me is far higher than Gil's. No pun inteneded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 48 minutes ago, VillaChris said: He's a decent player but overhyped on here. Without a striker of Benteke's quality up there all our attacking options look poor. He also has no right foot whatsoever. At start of second half, Gomes dropped the ball for the 100th time and all he had to do was kick it right footed as the goal was open and instead he did his cut back and lost it. I thought his set pieces were poor as well and struggled get height on them. Only really dangerous as Watford were hopeless defending them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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