Dr_Pangloss Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He appears to be very good at making nothing happen. Ouch. I think he's a decent player, but there's some truth in this, he's not particularly creative, he doesn't really have that forward pass in him and although he's not exactly got good runs ahead of him, as pointed out above, he wasn't really delivering the final balls at United, where he did have quality ahead of him. He's neat and tidy with a lot of energy, but I can't help but think that often quoted £8m fee could be used on someone with more creativity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He appears to be very good at making nothing happen. Ouch. I think he's a decent player, but there's some truth in this, he's not particularly creative, he doesn't really have that forward pass in him and although he's not exactly got good runs ahead of him, as pointed out above, he wasn't really delivering the final balls at United, where he did have quality ahead of him. He's neat and tidy with a lot of energy, but I can't help but think that often quoted £8m fee could be used on someone with more creativity. This is why I question why on the last page it was said that Cleverley was a good signing as the perfect replacement for Delph. Delph: Good with the ball at his feet, positive driving runs, gets the ball forward quickly, always looking to take the ball and move with it, brings others into the game when he does get forward. Cleverley (so far): Takes the ball, looks for men in space, tries to cross the ball, looks to link with other midfielders through short passing (especially Westwood). Like to keep the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 25, 2014 He appears to be very good at making nothing happen. Ouch. I think he's a decent player, but there's some truth in this, he's not particularly creative, he doesn't really have that forward pass in him and although he's not exactly got good runs ahead of him, as pointed out above, he wasn't really delivering the final balls at United, where he did have quality ahead of him. He's neat and tidy with a lot of energy, but I can't help but think that often quoted £8m fee could be used on someone with more creativity. Someone with more creativity yes, but it's not enough to get someone with more creativity and good overall play, I'm afraid. I'm not sure we can afford to keep an expensive one-way creative midfielder. Seems like Lambert agrees, hence Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I think one of the saddest things about the last few years under Lerner is that expectations are now so low that we think £8m is a vast sum of money to pay for a first team midfielder in 2014. It is a vast sum of money, if he isn't very good. No way has he shown anything like an £8m player. He's supposed to be creative. We've scored one goal since he arrived and not had too many more shots on target. Not all his fault but he needs to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 He appears to be very good at making nothing happen.Ouch. I think he's a decent player, but there's some truth in this, he's not particularly creative, he doesn't really have that forward pass in him and although he's not exactly got good runs ahead of him, as pointed out above, he wasn't really delivering the final balls at United, where he did have quality ahead of him. He's neat and tidy with a lot of energy, but I can't help but think that often quoted £8m fee could be used on someone with more creativity. Someone with more creativity yes, but it's not enough to get someone with more creativity and good overall play, I'm afraid. I'm not sure we can afford to keep an expensive one-way creative midfielder. Seems like Lambert agrees, hence Cole. But if we actually attacked teams then a good attacking midfielder would create opportunities and therefore worth their weight in gold. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 26, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2014 He appears to be very good at making nothing happen.Ouch. I think he's a decent player, but there's some truth in this, he's not particularly creative, he doesn't really have that forward pass in him and although he's not exactly got good runs ahead of him, as pointed out above, he wasn't really delivering the final balls at United, where he did have quality ahead of him. He's neat and tidy with a lot of energy, but I can't help but think that often quoted £8m fee could be used on someone with more creativity. Someone with more creativity yes, but it's not enough to get someone with more creativity and good overall play, I'm afraid. I'm not sure we can afford to keep an expensive one-way creative midfielder. Seems like Lambert agrees, hence Cole. But if we actually attacked teams then a good attacking midfielder would create opportunities and therefore worth their weight in gold. Yes, but that's a big if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He appears to be very good at making nothing happen. Ouch. I think he's a decent player, but there's some truth in this, he's not particularly creative, he doesn't really have that forward pass in him and although he's not exactly got good runs ahead of him, as pointed out above, he wasn't really delivering the final balls at United, where he did have quality ahead of him. He's neat and tidy with a lot of energy, but I can't help but think that often quoted £8m fee could be used on someone with more creativity. the thing is the teams he has played against its erally hard to judge him. I expect to see a better performance tonight when we play a lesser team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If man utd want 8m for him well they can get to **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He's looked very poor so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGrath1874 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Very average, even by our Standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Just a shit Ashley Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'm guessing he won't show his true worth against the easier teams? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 27, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted October 27, 2014 Shit today, agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsVillan Posted October 27, 2014 Moderator Share Posted October 27, 2014 He has that annoying trait of turning away from goal when receiving the ball, looked out of place playing left when right footed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Don't know what he offers. Doesn't work well with Westwood either in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 We already had an ineffectual, anonymous midfielder who never scores or gets assists in Westwood so I don't know why we signed another one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Very poor tonight, 3 or 4 deliveries that rolled along the floor into the first man, don't think he wants to be here and I've seen little to suggest we should spend 8m on him in the last year of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He hasn't impressed me in any game at all so far. He offers absolutely nothing. Christ, if we actually spend £8m on him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Kept going but still pretty underwhelmed with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think he'll score on Monday No chance! Can I have tomorrow's lottery numbers while you're at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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