KHV Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Every time I've seen him play for Colombia he has been outstanding. He's had a few good games for us but the odd shocker too. Not sure what to make of him, really. I think he is more suited to the pace Colombia play the game, I don't think he suited to the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier LeagueMe either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samjp26 Posted October 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2015 I think he has had a good start to the season, but:1. He isn't a box to box midfielder2. He can't play in a midfield twoPlay him as a defensive midfielder if we're using that role. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Tend to agree that he isn't that well suited. He looked good in his first couple of games this season but has gone right off the boil. He absolutely can't play in a 2 man central midfield, which in my book, makes him too limited a player to rely on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier LeagueMe either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Out of interest ,which top leagues are slower than the PL. All of them?If so, our best teams get turned over time and time again by 'slower' teams/players.I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his. What a load of bollocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his. What a load of bollocks You smell 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 15, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I don't think he suited to the Premier League Me either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Edited October 15, 2015 by Stevo985 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Haha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier LeagueMe either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Out of interest ,which top leagues are slower than the PL. All of them?If so, our best teams get turned over time and time again by 'slower' teams/players.I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his.Was thinking the same, World Cup pace is surely not slower than the premier league. Messi would not come to the premier league and struggle with the pace, but Sanchez has kept him in his pocket numerous times.The problem with Sanchez is that he is limited with his passing and needs players to run close to him to collect the ball. (And to the people saying he does not work in a midfield two, Colombia play a simple 442 most of the time). At Colombia you can see that everytime Sanchez wins the ball, James Rodriguez runs towards him to pick up the ball.Sanchez should start in the midfield as the defensive player and every time he wins the ball the midfield partner (Gana) or someone should run towards him to take the ball of him. To often it seems like everyone, the players and manager, expect him to be a playmaker and everyone runs away from him when he is in possession, which is when he struggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier LeagueMe either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Out of interest ,which top leagues are slower than the PL. All of them?If so, our best teams get turned over time and time again by 'slower' teams/players.I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his.Was thinking the same, World Cup pace is surely not slower than the premier league. World Cup pace is much slower than the premier league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier LeagueMe either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Out of interest ,which top leagues are slower than the PL. All of them?If so, our best teams get turned over time and time again by 'slower' teams/players.I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his.Was thinking the same, World Cup pace is surely not slower than the premier league. World Cup pace is much slower than the premier leagueThan can be discussed, I would agree that the worst/smaller nations that participate may have slower tempo. But surely not the bigger nations ? How do you measure tempo in a match ? according to average distance covered in a match the hardest working team in the premier league is Bournemouth who cover on average 72 miles per match, this would put them in as the 9th hardest working team in the world cup. Villa's average of 64 miles per match would come in as 29th hardest working team. This must be one way of seeing the tempo as it shows how hard players fight and how much pressure they put on the opponents ?If your talking passing tempo I will disagree without showing figures, as the passing in the premier league is not on par with the better nations, which we could see from the English national team compared to just about every other nation that competed. Out played, out fought and out pressured by Costa Rica. The World Cup is the competition where players(high on adrenaline) put in the most effort and usually play to a much higher level than they do at club level, as it is the biggest competition in the world. So what is high tempo ? kick and rush ? as this is a dying way of playing in the premier league, arguably only west brom play it and they are probably the team with the lowest tempo in the league.Personally I think the high tempo thing in the premier league is a myth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier LeagueMe either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. Out of interest ,which top leagues are slower than the PL. All of them?If so, our best teams get turned over time and time again by 'slower' teams/players.I'm playing devil's advocate here. But maybe it's our pace that's wrong, not his.Was thinking the same, World Cup pace is surely not slower than the premier league. World Cup pace is much slower than the premier leagueThan can be discussed, I would agree that the worst/smaller nations that participate may have slower tempo. But surely not the bigger nations ? How do you measure tempo in a match ? according to average distance covered in a match the hardest working team in the premier league is Bournemouth who cover on average 72 miles per match, this would put them in as the 9th hardest working team in the world cup. Villa's average of 64 miles per match would come in as 29th hardest working team. This must be one way of seeing the tempo as it shows how hard players fight and how much pressure they put on the opponents ?If your talking passing tempo I will disagree without showing figures, as the passing in the premier league is not on par with the better nations, which we could see from the English national team compared to just about every other nation that competed. Out played, out fought and out pressured by Costa Rica. The World Cup is the competition where players(high on adrenaline) put in the most effort and usually play to a much higher level than they do at club level, as it is the biggest competition in the world. So what is high tempo ? kick and rush ? as this is a dying way of playing in the premier league, arguably only west brom play it and they are probably the team with the lowest tempo in the league.Personally I think the high tempo thing in the premier league is a myth.World Cup's bore me to death 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I don't think he suited to the Premier League Me either.He plays at too slow a pace for the premier league. World Cup's bore me to death hahaha I am sure if England weren't shit or Villa played in it, it would be the best competition in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I like Sanchez, but he only seems to work in a three man midfield and I don't think that works anymore.He always seems to be either an utter rock in midfield, or genuinely off pace and pretty rubbish, never something between.I would rather we play a midfield of Vertout, Gil and Gana and bring him if we need to see out the game, something we just don't ever do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I think he has had a good start to the season, but:1. He isn't a box to box midfielder2. He can't play in a midfield twoPlay him as a defensive midfielder if we're using that role.He needs a defined role. With Colombia it's just sit infront of the defence, man mark anyone who's playing number 10 for opposition and give the more to the more technical players.With us it's yes defend and win the ball but try to create stuff aswell and he's not great at that hence the suicidal balls he does on occasions.I completely agree him in just a two dosen't work but put him in a 3 man base as the DM and he's not that bad, I've seen a lot worse playing for us in midfield in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko#4 Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Thought Carlos played really well tonight, he put himself about and broke up play a fair few times. If the new manager can get it into his head that once he has won the ball he needs to pass it to a player no further than 10 yards away wearing the same coloured shirt as him, then he could become very important over the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Average tonight. But considering most around him were absolutely shite, he nets out half decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 such a frustrating player, breaks up play well, good aggression and one of the few players outside the CBs with a bit of physical presence. But then once he wins it he gives it straight back with an awful pass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 He's a defensive role player who need's an outlet as soon as he get's the ball. With Gil in the team we have that.In a midfield 3 given the right role he'll do the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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