parisvilla Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 No idea which position Bacuna sees as his strongest but thought he was very good in 1 v 1 defensive scenarios up against Redmond today. Not 100% sure he's as aware as he should be of opposition player movement off the ball however. Crap v. Liverpool in a more advanced role so hope he can continue to flourish at RB. Would have been my MOTM were it not for Godzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Am I the only one that saw Helenius hold the ball up extremely well by dancing around some of their defenders? Guy has some serious footwork with the ball, unexpected for a big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Quick feet for a big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Typical villa fans response to a new player, more often than not they come through fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2013 Not this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Am I the only one that saw Helenius hold the ball up extremely well by dancing around some of their defenders? Guy has some serious footwork with the ball, unexpected for a big guy. Yes he almost is the most comfortable one with the ball although he is the less one played for us .. fair play to him to be with this confidence . I think he could eventually be on the starting 11 as he seems to have creativity in him .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Not a vintage performance, but I'll take scrappy 1-0 wins away from home all day long. Worth remembering also, we had no Okore, Lowton, Westwood, and played the majority of the match with out Benteke..Lowton was left out, travelled with the squad but didn't make the 18.Erm yeah, so we were without him. Whether he was dropped, or injured, he can still be classed as a first team regular, and we managed to get the win without him. Bacuna was an excellent replacement too, which bodes well.Seems a strange argument to try and gain extra credit for a win by saying 'we were without X, Y and Z' when being without X was actually our own choice.The point I was making was how much better the squad is, rather than trying to gain any extra credit for the win. Chill Winston. Well that wasn't the way your original point came across at all. But thanks for the sarcastic comments in addition, Dave80. Well the bit after the part of my post that you quoted, should have indicated the point I was making.: Showing depth in the squad, which is encouraging. Listen mate, we're both Villa, and I apologies, if I came across as sarcastic, but you took part of what I said out of context, so I defended that. The 'Chill Winston' bit was meant to lighten the mood. I say we forget it, and enjoy a rare clean sheet, and a victory for our boys! Fair enough, crossed wires. Not looking to fight over it on here, seen too many silly scraps and arguments between fellow Villans in the past. It was a good performance from Bacuna which was a big positive, may give Lowton a kick up the backside he possibly needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcTheObsession Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) and sell tonev That is something the clown at Sunderland would do. Edited September 21, 2013 by AvfcTheObsession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Not this one. Well done for proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 This just shows it all evens out in the end. We were unlucky to not even get a point against Chelsea and Liverpool, and now we are lucky to get three against Norwich. Hopefully this gives the lads some confidence. It is very noticeable this team plays with much less fear away from Villa Park. Some Villa fans need to consider how their general demeanor affects the play on the pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 It is very noticeable this team plays with much less fear away from Villa Park. Some Villa fans need to consider how their general demeanor affects the play on the pitch. This may be a factor but the main reason is our style of play suits us away from VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Guzan - 9 MOTM Vlaar - 7 Clark - 8 Did well and wasn't afraid to mix it up Bacuna - 8 Impressive display at RB Luna - 5 Very poor defensively and looked like he needed some help from midfield but wasn't getting any. El Amadi - 6 Didn't do much Weimann - Bags of energy and I like his direct running. Needs more end product. Agbonlahor - Played very well his passing was great. Looked to be battling an injury in the second half Delph - 7 probably the best of the midfield three Tonev - 0 - Dire. Not sure he did a single thing right in the whole game. I hope for his sake there's more to come because that was like playing with ten men today Benteke - 5- Potent threat as always. Will be missed. Kozák (for Benteke 28) - 7 Looked okay, should have buried the first chance he had but luckily Gabby setup him up to redeem himself. Helenius (for Agbonlahor 61) - 5 - looks like a number 10 and not a target man. Sylla (for Tonev 77) - 3 - didn't really make an impresssion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I think our players are shit scared to play at home because of our moany, knee-jerk crowd, who as soon as we go behind start groaning rather than getting behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Per Opta stats for the game, successful tackles: KEA 11 Fer 5 Delph 4 Howson 1 KEA didn't do anything eye catching but was more influential than Delph today IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 A better performance than against Newcastle but still way short of what I want to see although a wins a win. Guzan was exceptional, finally a clean sheet Whoooooa. Bacuna did very well, Lowton will have to up his game to get back in. Luna improved and worked hard. Clark is proving some of us wrong, he is doing well. The rest just meh, again the midfield was over run and unable to keep possession or control the game at any point, a forward line the is reactive instead of moving in anticipation. And in Tonev we now have another whole level of bad. I just hope that Benteke isn't out for long, Kozan finished his goal well but apart from that wasn't really in the game and never lead the line like I would expect a CF to do. However with our midfield and the awful positions that Gabby and Wieman play it's not surprising. I said it last week to me he doesn't look good enough but he's here now and I believe he needs wingers who can cross a ball and then we will see the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 A better performance than against Newcastle but still way short of what I want to see although a wins a win. Guzan was exceptional, finally a clean sheet Whoooooa. Bacuna did very well, Lowton will have to up his game to get back in. Luna improved and worked hard. Clark is proving some of us wrong, he is doing well. The rest just meh, again the midfield was over run and unable to keep possession or control the game at any point, a forward line the is reactive instead of moving in anticipation. And in Tonev we now have another whole level of bad. I just hope that Benteke isn't out for long, Kozan finished his goal well but apart from that wasn't really in the game and never lead the line like I would expect a CF to do. However with our midfield and the awful positions that Gabby and Wieman play it's not surprising. I said it last week to me he doesn't look good enough but he's here now and I believe he needs wingers who can cross a ball and then we will see the best of him. Kozak made some really moves off the ball, some very silky play with Weimann or Tonev too at one point (think it may have been Tonev). He isn't as quick as Benteke but he looks like he can get himself into space, I think we will need to feed him though unlike Benteke who can usually make a goal himself. As long as our players can find him, I reckon he will find the space, give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingsombrero Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 3 points and a clean sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet Boring Boring Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Typical villa fans response to a new player, more often than not they come through fine. Would love to see that actually verified in a checklist: Three columns: Name of new player; came through fine; Didn't come through fine. I think that would take the wind out of the sails of your bold statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2013 Not this one. Well done for proving my point. What we're doing currently is taking small risks and trying out inexpensive players in the hopes that some of them will come through fine. I would think that means unusually few of these players will actually make it. To me Tonev is an epitome of a project like this. And my opinion is that he will fail. On the other hand I agree with you that our crowd isn't always behind our players in home matches which infuriates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Not this one. Well done for proving my point. What we're doing currently is taking small risks and trying out inexpensive players in the hopes that some of them will come through fine. I would think that means unusually few of these players will actually make it. To me Tonev is an epitome of a project like this. And my opinion is that he will fail. On the other hand I agree with you that our crowd isn't always behind our players in home matches which infuriates me. So you've already written him off? But then you say our crowd doesn't get behind the players which annoys you? Erm take a look in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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