bickster Posted January 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Now it's 18zl In communist times, I once got paid the average Polish workers monthly wage for a weeks work. There was nothing to spend them on except vodka and a toilet cleaner called Fart. I gave most of them away at the end of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: 17zl for me Even still, it pays for itself if you download one album to listen to offline... Depends on your use really. About a month's subscription for the price of a new cd. So you could buy 12 new CDs (or digital album) a year, and listen to them for as long as you want, or you could subscribe for a few years, and cancel one day, having absolutely nothing to show for it, rather than still having dozens and dozens of albums you can listen to forever... If you tend to listen to the same music, Spotify is far more expensive than just owning a copy of that music. It's convenient and the breadth of music is far greater than any individual is ever going to have at their disposal, so it's very much an individual choice, I don't think it's worth it for me though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Spotify pays the artist feck all. Easy to see where online file sharing kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Davkaus said: I'm a bit uncomfortable about services like Spotify, though, I keep thinking that even if I don't like physical media cluttering the place up, in the long run, I'm probably better off just buying digital copies rather than having to have a permanent subscription at £120 a year. It's a lot like leasing a car, it seems good value in the short term, but when I'm done with it, I've paid thousands and own precisely nothing, and I'm trapped in the cycle. I wonder how much I'd save over the next 5 years just buying copies of the few things I actually listen to rather than paying a premium for millions of songs I have no interest in. I'm happy to pay £120 a year to have pretty much every artist and song at my fingertips. I'm comfortable that I will never own it. I've listened to so much more music this way than when I used to buy it. Like you guys the only physical media I retain are books. Something nice and comforting about books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Xela said: the only physical media I retain are books. Something nice and comforting about books. You're right there and imo they also make for a nice display. I must admit I do love my array of hardbacks that I have amassed through the years over a variety of subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Xela said: Like you guys the only physical media I retain are books. Something nice and comforting about books. What have you done with your collection of Fiesta and Escort? Edited January 17, 2019 by snowychap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, snowychap said: What have you done with your collection of Fiesta and Escort? £10 says he's laminated them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, mottaloo said: £10 says he's laminated them ... of the ones that were salvageable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Escort and Fiesta?! Hustler and Whitehouse for me! Needed to see a bit of pink! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 hours ago, lapal_fan said: Yea, I have collected seasons 1 - 20 odd of the simpsons.. Now they just clutter the place because I only have a ps4 which can play them and I just stream anything I want from my arse on the sofa You could get rid of about half those seasons of The Simpsons to start with I've recently moved so had to streamline my DVD and CD collection a bit, but I was glad to have a Kindle, I've got over a hundred books on it and it would have been a pain in the arse moving them all as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hang on, people are paying £120 a year to listen to music they don't own? **** me boys, that's a great deal, where do I sign up? Have I got the wrong end of the stick here? I mean, each to their own and all that, but I've taken grief in work for buying music by peeps that tell me to get on spotify. But they're listening to adverts or paying a tenner a month for what is basically radio? I cannot wait to get in to work tomorrow.... 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2019 I’m stupendously rubbish in my knowledge of how music is downloaded and streamed etc. No real idea at all about how Spotify works, these last few pages have made me feel like how Mel Smith did when trying to buy a gramophone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, snowychap said: What have you done with your collection of Fiesta and Escort? I looked at this post for ages trying to get the joke. I thought it was some sort of clever joke about leasing cars, tied into the point about never owning music/films etc in the same way as you don't own a car if you lease it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Hang on, people are paying £120 a year to listen to music they don't own? **** me boys, that's a great deal, where do I sign up? Have I got the wrong end of the stick here? I mean, each to their own and all that, but I've taken grief in work for buying music by peeps that tell me to get on spotify. But they're listening to adverts or paying a tenner a month for what is basically radio? I cannot wait to get in to work tomorrow.... Yep. As Xela said it's given me access to way more music than I ever would have listened to in the past. What's the benefit of owning the music? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yep. As Xela said it's given me access to way more music than I ever would have listened to in the past. What's the benefit of owning the music? Well, I own it, I think that's the main benefit. I'm buying albums that cost 8, 9, 10 quid and I've just discovered the people advising me against that are paying a tenner a month basically for clever radio. I've got enough of it stockpiled to rediscover stuff. I like the format encouraging me to listen to several tracks in a particular order, not skip the one that didn't click straight away. I sit there, sprawled across a 1970's beanbag, listening to one record, flicking through the others, reading the weird cryptic little notes I've written on the inside of the sleeves when i was a kid convinced someone would buy my lyrics. But i totally accept that's just my thing. By the same token, I'd have no interest in who designed a computer game or where my shirt was made. I don't own a watch. i wouldn't pay extra to have a car in a particular colour. Other than cottaging and a weekend skag habit, it's my only vice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted January 17, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Well, I own it, I think that's the main benefit. I'm buying albums that cost 8, 9, 10 quid and I've just discovered the people advising me against that are paying a tenner a month basically for clever radio. I've got enough of it stockpiled to rediscover stuff. I like the format encouraging me to listen to several tracks in a particular order, not skip the one that didn't click straight away. I sit there, sprawled across a 1970's beanbag, listening to one record, flicking through the others, reading the weird cryptic little notes I've written on the inside of the sleeves when i was a kid convinced someone would buy my lyrics. But i totally accept that's just my thing. By the same token, I'd have no interest in who designed a computer game or where my shirt was made. I don't own a watch. i wouldn't pay extra to have a car in a particular colour. Other than cottaging and a weekend skag habit, it's my only vice. I get the nostalgia of looking back over old albums like that. But if you're only interested in listening to music, then what's the benefit of owning it? Just to say you own it? You probably pay more than 10 quid a month (or if you don't plenty of people do) to watch TV shows that you don't own. To me it's the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted January 17, 2019 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Well, I own it, I think that's the main benefit. I'm buying albums that cost 8, 9, 10 quid and I've just discovered the people advising me against that are paying a tenner a month basically for clever radio. I've got enough of it stockpiled to rediscover stuff. I like the format encouraging me to listen to several tracks in a particular order, not skip the one that didn't click straight away. I sit there, sprawled across a 1970's beanbag, listening to one record, flicking through the others, reading the weird cryptic little notes I've written on the inside of the sleeves when i was a kid convinced someone would buy my lyrics. But i totally accept that's just my thing. By the same token, I'd have no interest in who designed a computer game or where my shirt was made. I don't own a watch. i wouldn't pay extra to have a car in a particular colour. Other than cottaging and a weekend skag habit, it's my only vice. I'll add to that, music is my passion, my drug. Since my musical awakening in around 1976/7 I've bought records and cds. They document my life, it's not just the tunes themselves, its the covers, the information contained within them. I can put particular records on and they remind me of events in my life, either directly or indirectly. The artwork means things to me too Tonight I was working through some record cleaning and I came across the 12" of Just Fascination by Cabaret Voltaire, cleaned it up and put it on. For a few minutes I was back in the Bierkeller in Liverpool around 1985, I can remember the people that were there, how cold it was etc I had a great few minutes of nostalgia. I own that memory, records are like photos and videos for me. I have few photos of my life, my memories are all seemingly linked to music. It's the one constant I've had in my adult years, I have a need to feel close to it. I can walk into a record shop and have conversations with complete strangers about a common interest, compare thoughts and sometimes we'll keep bumping into each other, it turns into a friendship. I love the artwork on album sleeves (some anyway), it's more than just music. Oh and when Virgin dick about with my internet I can still listen to what I want I don't expect anyone else to understand but I'm sure some will and some won't have the foggiest about what I'm rambling on about 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I pay for Spotify, but it is pretty shit in some ways. It lacks a lot of the 'rare' stuff that I like and I'm sorry but the shuffle feature is a **** joke, it is not random at all and it's a really, really easy thing to programme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I pay for Spotify, but it is pretty shit in some ways. It lacks a lot of the 'rare' stuff that I like and I'm sorry but the shuffle feature is a **** joke, it is not random at all and it's a really, really easy thing to programme. I agree, the shuffle thing tries to be a DJ too much, it groups things together in a way that I don't like quite often Also its unintelligent, it doesn't realise that because I like a certain period of a band that I hate another period (New Order being a case in point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 17, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2019 And then you get a moment like this one. Just pulled out Atmosphere 12" (Joy Division not Russ Abbott) and looked it up on Discogs. My version is the rarer first pressing because it has UK at the bottom of the rear sleeve. This obviously increases its value but that doesn't interest me (too much) but it's kind of like a badge of honour that says I was into the band from early on etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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