Davkaus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 "Locking down the internet" isn't really possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 "Locking down the internet" isn't really possible. Tell that to the people in China 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 It will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Jessica Harris @jessicaaharrisx 2h The spread of radical Muslims is getting out of hand. No way would it be acceptable to go to Islam and burn the flag. No we'd be killed. Do they speak English in Islam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) "Locking down the internet" isn't really possible. Tell that to the people in China It's funny, I was going to use that as an example of it being impossible. Those with no understanding of technology are blocked by the Great Firewall of China. Those with a basic understanding of VPNs, proxies, or Tor are, at most, mildly inconvenienced. The only way to restrict freedom of information on the internet to those with knowledge of how it works is to physically restrict access to it, which is extremely unlikely to happen. Edited May 22, 2013 by Davkaus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Who filmed that video? And why is there a woman that just walks straight past when he's wielding a **** meat cleaver around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted May 22, 2013 Wow... I just looked at the EDL facebook page... I predict a riot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Itv showing that coverage of the killers really does not seem correct tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 In nationality bingo we've had... Somalia Jamaica England and just now on BBC News, Nigeria 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 22, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2013 Instances like this always bring out people's true colours. It's murder. We have a rule of law. Try them. Jail them. Move on. Dwelling on motive, background, religious affiliation and giving days/weeks of press coverage on it is what they want and we shouldn't give it to them. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Astonishing pics of women talking to the killers....brave women, apparently comforted the victim as he was dying and as the killers were right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Who filmed that video? And why is there a woman that just walks straight past when he's wielding a **** meat cleaver around? It's Woolwich mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 People with smartphones and Twitter accounts were giving accounts well before any media turned up...no stopping the free flow of info now...until they lockdown the internet, which will eventually happen. Oh they're trying. They're really trying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Itv showing that coverage of the killers really does not seem correct tbh Indeed. We all know that people who commit these crimes shouldn't be given "the oxygen of publicity". Unfortunately there are always some media scumbags who decide that they value the eyeballs more than any sense of decency. Part of me wonders how much of an outcry there would be if there was a legislated media blackout on serious crimes. and would this have an impact on the likelihood of people doing this sort of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Instances like this always bring out people's true colours. It's murder. We have a rule of law. Try them. Jail them. Move on. Dwelling on motive, background, religious affiliation and giving days/weeks of press coverage on it is what they want and we shouldn't give it to them. I agree with the general sentiment, but usually people will want to glean some meaning from an atrocity like this. This wasn't a mugging gone bad, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 In nationality bingo we've had... Somalia Jamaica England and just now on BBC News, Nigeria Don't forget Islam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Itv showing that coverage of the killers really does not seem correct tbh Indeed. We all know that people who commit these crimes shouldn't be given "the oxygen of publicity". Unfortunately there are always some media scumbags who decide that they value the eyeballs more than any sense of decency. Part of me wonders how much of an outcry there would be if there was a legislated media blackout on serious crimes. and would this have an impact on the likelihood of people doing this sort of thing? We'd still be posting the pictures and videos here and on twitter/facebook. "The people" would still see everything they wanted to, there is no point trying to control and shut down the newspapers when we all just have social media to turn to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 You appear to have missed at least some of my point. It's not just the stirring up of hatred by idiots in the EDL or BNP I find distasteful, it includes the peddling of left wing agendas on the back of this mans murder. That is also utilising a heinous crime to further a goal, whether I might agree with that goal or not, and it's rather sickening. I watched the video and understood it - you don't need to recount it for me. You are jumping to a conclusion I did not make in inferring I request the state conceal the matter. My point is rather more that the media do not, and should not, broadcast anything about this beyond that the event took place and is being investigated. It only serves to give the murderer exactly what he wanted (a similar line of thought is given for high school shootings in the US). Has there been peddling of left wing agendas? I've seen what EDL and BNP are putting out, but I've not seen the left wing equivalent that you seem to have. Who other than the state can, or does, get the media not to broadcast things in the co-ordinated way which would be necessary with this? As with the original denial of "the oxygen of publicity", and many examples since. Do you think that if people like this couldn't get their message broadcast, they wouldn't do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 22, 2013 Moderator Share Posted May 22, 2013 Wow... I just looked at the EDL facebook page... I predict a riot! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I agree with the general sentiment, but usually people will want to glean some meaning from an atrocity like this. This wasn't a mugging gone bad, after all. There is no meaning. It is senseless violence. Islam doesn't drive people to murder, nor does Christianity or atheism or supporting a football team. Humans are capable of these acts of violence and those with a predilection for it will seek out, or rather drift toward, a platform. We've seen it throughout history and it will continue as long as people are around. You can seek all the meaning you want but humans have this side to them and we just need to deal with it, as uncomfortable as that thought may seem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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