villa89 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 21 hours ago, Xela said: Moyes throwing his players under the bus. Sunderland are a relegation waiting to happen. Just like we were. Its got to happen this year surely Yep and it could be the last nail in Moyes' coffin. Whatever he had at Everton (if he even had much then) he's well and truely lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 26, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) They have to drop this season. As a club they need it in the same way we did. I don't know if Ellis Short is actively looking to sell the club, but they need a change of owner, he's nearly as useless as Lerner was. Edited September 26, 2016 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 They need relegation. Won't be pretty for a few years but long term (serious long term) it's beneficial in my opinion both for fans and club. Even as fans I'd imagine they are sick of it (just like we were) Championship hasn't been all that great for us but to be honest I am still enjoying it despite languishing in 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Sunderland this seasons villa. i think they will go down with Bournemouth Bournemouth won't go down. They are winning the games they should be winning and getting points steadily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2016 David Moyes doing another David Moyes I see. Coming out and saying they'll struggle to avoid relegation unless they buy well in January. In other words 'What I've got now is shite'. Good man Dave. He'll get that squad running through brick walls. Although it'll be in order to get away from Sunderland FC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 There are decent players at Sunderland....Kone, Khazri and Kirchoff all played major parts in keeping them up last season. Moyes should be asking himself why none of them seem to want to play for him.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 26, 2016 Moderator Share Posted September 26, 2016 5 hours ago, BOF said: David Moyes doing another David Moyes I see. Coming out and saying they'll struggle to avoid relegation unless they buy well in January. In other words 'What I've got now is shite'. Good man Dave. He'll get that squad running through brick walls. Although it'll be in order to get away from Sunderland FC. He really is a busted flush. Most damning thing I've seen about him this season came from Pienaar where he was pretty much saying that he had lost his edge and gone a little soft. He tried to spin it as a positive but it clearly wasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Could be in for a season every bit as torrid as our one last year. It has been a long time coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 13 hours ago, TrentVilla said: He really is a busted flush. Most damning thing I've seen about him this season came from Pienaar where he was pretty much saying that he had lost his edge and gone a little soft. He tried to spin it as a positive but it clearly wasn't. Managers are like prize fighters....too many defeats and the doubt creeps in......they peak and drop in the main. its good to have a manager on the way up..... not on the way down. you are right busted flush. ps Don't think Sir Ron did that well without TB or after he moved on.....left it all with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 21 hours ago, dudevillaisnice said: They need relegation. Won't be pretty for a few years but long term (serious long term) it's beneficial in my opinion both for fans and club. People would have said the same about us and they weren't right then and you're not right now. Every club needs to stay in the premier league because of the vast money that's there. Once you drop out you're at HUGE disadvantage. What they need is a new owner. IIRC they, just like we had, have a clueless American owner who's heart's not in it and doesn't really know what he is doing. I think Ellis Short is just there for a quick profit IMO and he might get his fingers burnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 2 hours ago, villa89 said: . I think Ellis Short is just there for a quick profit IMO and he might get his fingers burnt. I doubt it. The club has been haemorrhaging money since the day he stepped in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I couldnt understand why he turned us down to take over at Sunderland. We were down and had the promise of major backing. Sunderland were always going to down fighting and if they were relegated it would be him that took them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I don't know how but Sunderland have managed to worse our start last year. Officially the worst start for a premier league team this century. seems we might have got a lucky escape with moyes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 13 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I don't know how but Sunderland have managed to worse our start last year. Officially the worst start for a premier league team this century. seems we might have got a lucky escape with moyes! I think Manure job and the failure in Spain broke him completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, Jarpie said: I think Manure job and the failure in Spain broke him completely. Looks like he won't get any more top jobs if he fails at Sunderland. Bet he is maybe regretting turning us down. No matter how this turns out with Bruce, I will always respect him more than moyes. Certainly has more balls and courage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I know he's not doing particularly well but let's not pretend that this is massively out of the norm for Blunderland. Maybe the music will finally stop for them this season, but frankly it's about five seasons later than it should have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted October 22, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2016 On 26/09/2016 at 09:01, Demitri_C said: Sunderland this seasons villa. i think they will go down with Bournemouth Bournemouth? I seriously doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 They look absolutely ****. Like us, they've been on the decline for years and their luck finally seems to have run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Moyes to get sacked and effectively his career at top flight level to end before the return of fat sam again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Big problem Sunderland have is at this point in the season they usually play Newcastle, beat them and kickstart their season. No such luck this season. Or they could sack the manager which they will probably do. Arsenal at home for them next... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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