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Heskey is on 66k, Ireland 65k, Petrov 48k and Beye 40k.

Oh Martin.

Ireland isn't his fault, and Petrov probably deserves that deal (particularly if the average is 57k). The others are well known misnomers.

I absolutely don't believe that the average wage is 57k though, more Mirror nonsense.

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i dnno about Celtic but you are completely wrong in regards to Leicester - it was that idiot Peter Taylor who got Leicester into a mess.

im affraid the more cynical of Lerner and co. are being proven correct if these stories are true.

mon left leicester with loads of overpaid mules that had to be cleaned up in the years following his departure

ask any celtic fan about club finances post o'neill and they'll tell you the same

again, it's the same case with villa. that's hardly a coincidence

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Why are you not talking about those players tho?

and what actually ruined Leicester ?

Revisionism and a crap one.

P3te is right he has always given his "loyal" players monster contracts. its wages that destroy a club not transfer fees.

At Celtic average Premier League players like Hartson, Sutton and Lennon were on huge wages. More than Villa players at the time and took Celtic years to recover from this which why they are signing players from Championship and not Premier LEague these days

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Why are you not talking about those players tho?

and what actually ruined Leicester ?

Revisionism and a crap one.

im not talking about those players because they werent the ones that caused leicester the problems. huge, undeserved wages caused them the issues. same issues at celtic. same issues at villa

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Surely it's up to the chairman and board members to give the manager a transfer and wage budget to work with. Every manager out there would pay the wages to get the players they want if they were made available.

it is. and mon used what he was allowed to up to a point where he was told to reign it in, and we all know what happened next

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Rubbish .

It was Peter Taylor who spent a lot and who bought in the expensive likes of Mancini , Dennis Wise , the utterly useless Akinbiyi for £5 million etc for Leicester not MON.

He wrecked Leicester not O'Neill.

Correct; it was post MON that the wages spiralled out of control; Savage chronicles that he only got a big contract after MON left.

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Whats happened to the theory that once we shift the higher earners - we wipe the slate clean - and can start spending again ?

The policy of shifting the high earners seems more like a never ending cycle - as soon as Heskey and Beye are gone - two other players will be targetted as the top earners , that must be moved on - before we can bring in any others .....

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The premise of reducing the number of high earners rests on the ability of the manager not to recruit players on high salaries & long contracts who turn out to be shitter than expected.... surely this is always gonna happen

The only way to mitigate is to buy younger players who will have some sell on value and are not at the top of their earning curve

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The premise of reducing the number of high earners rests on the ability of the manager not to recruit players on high salaries & long contracts who turn out to be shitter than expected.... surely this is always gonna happen

The only way to mitigate is to buy younger players who will have some sell on value and are not at the top of their earning curve

problem with that though in today's football, any kid who shows the slightest bit of potential sees his value sky rocket, which looks like it will be out of our league and that's if a bigger club doesn't come and get him first.
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The premise of reducing the number of high earners rests on the ability of the manager not to recruit players on high salaries & long contracts who turn out to be shitter than expected.... surely this is always gonna happen

The only way to mitigate is to buy younger players who will have some sell on value and are not at the top of their earning curve

So why did we spend 4m quid on signing Hutton?

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The premise of reducing the number of high earners rests on the ability of the manager not to recruit players on high salaries & long contracts who turn out to be shitter than expected.... surely this is always gonna happen

The only way to mitigate is to buy younger players who will have some sell on value and are not at the top of their earning curve

So why did we spend 4m quid on signing Hutton?

Great fecking question S'N'C!!

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The premise of reducing the number of high earners rests on the ability of the manager not to recruit players on high salaries & long contracts who turn out to be shitter than expected.... surely this is always gonna happen

The only way to mitigate is to buy younger players who will have some sell on value and are not at the top of their earning curve

So why did we spend 4m quid on signing Hutton?

Great fecking question S'N'C!!

Its quite clear; you sell a player in the last year of his contract who the manager perceives is injury prone and is on high wages, who will not sign a new contract. You buy a younger player he rates for a little more, but on much lower wages.

Seems logical in terms of financial plan. Obviously footballing wise we can disagree.

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A prominent Villa fan Sir Mervyn King the Governor of the Bank of England, has just said that he fears that Britain is in the grip of the worlds worst ever financial crisis.

Perhaps we should take note of this and thank our lucky stars that AVFC is owned and run by a man who is determined to make sure that our club lives within it's financial means and survives the world wide financial crisis. Can we not give Randy the credit he is due for acting as a safe pair of hands in very troubled times.

I find it laughable that you think Randy Lerner, who has been so financially inept during his ownership of AVFC, is now a "safe pair of hands"

I'm glad I bought a smile to your face Mike.

I accept that Randy was initially somewhat unwise and probably naive to allow Mon to control wages and pay too much to average signings, but his current policy appears to be designed to rectify this situation asap. That would indicate to me that he now fully understands the ramifications of running a Premiership football club, and that he is now a "safe pair of hands" in very troubled times.

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A prominent Villa fan Sir Mervyn King the Governor of the Bank of England, has just said that he fears that Britain is in the grip of the worlds worst ever financial crisis.

Perhaps we should take note of this and thank our lucky stars that AVFC is owned and run by a man who is determined to make sure that our club lives within it's financial means and survives the world wide financial crisis. Can we not give Randy the credit he is due for acting as a safe pair of hands in very troubled times.

Maybe we should also recognise how apparently useless the Governer of the Bank of England was at foreseeing the banking crisis and doing anything proactive to head it off and what an idiot he is to come out with a public statement like this when confidence is one of the critical aspects underpinning any recovery.

As for RL, he set the commercial policy and allowed MON to sign older players on absolutely silly money. He has been a major contributor to getting us where we are commercially - including the appointment of Eck which, IMO, has reduced the crowds and therefore revenue and so requires a further cut in the wage bill - and has decided that this needs to be reversed in one summer. If he had the balls to appoint a proper, experienced management team (that might challenge him sometimes) with a clear commercial strategy then I would be confident that we are moving forward positively.

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